Ms. Soussana, 40, is the first Israeli to speak publicly about being sexually assaulted during captivity after the Hamas-led raid on southern Israel. In her interviews with The Times, conducted mostly in English, she provided extensive details of sexual and other violence she suffered during a 55-day ordeal.
Ms. Soussana’s personal account of her experience in captivity is consistent with what she told two doctors and a social worker less than 24 hours after she was freed on Nov. 30. Their reports about her account state the nature of the sexual act; The Times agreed not to disclose the specifics.
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For months, Hamas and its supporters have denied that its members sexually abused people in captivity or during the Oct. 7 terrorist attack. This month, a United Nations report said that there was “clear and convincing information” that some hostages had suffered sexual violence and there were “reasonable grounds” to believe sexual violence occurred during the raid, while acknowledging the “challenges and limitations” of examining the issue.
Okay, so who are the people responsible? A handful of leaders? Most of the original Zionists have been dead for a long time. Is it literally every single Israeli? What exactly does this freedom and justice look like? I don’t think locking up Netanyahu and Ben Gvir would exactly satisfy the Palestinian cause, so ultimately, you have the situation of millions of Israelis, most of which were born there, who do not want to leave and will only do so by force.
So, what do you want? The forced removal of all Israelis? That’s not an inconsistent position given your general perspective, but if that’s the case, come out and actually say it.
You’ve said a lot of nice abstract things about wanting freedom and justice, and very little actual concrete info about the situation on the ground.
Gish gallop.
You made an absolute out of genocide and then kited right past the fact your original stance was an absolute acceptance of genocide despite the obvious other answers.
You will not stop clawing to justify the genocide, I don’t care to continue debating genocidal nazis.
It’s sadly ironic that these people who go “you don’t think killing all of them is justified? You’re just a genocidal Nazi yourself!” don’t realize they’re acting the exact same way as Netanyahu and the IDF. If you don’t support their absolutist violence, you’re an antisemite who wants Hamas to kill all Israelis.
They’ll make all sorts of excuses, but at the end of the day, they use the exact same underlying ideology/argument that is being used to justify genocide.
It’s just amusing that these people know that they can’t openly say “I think all Israelis should be either removed or murdered”, so they’ll just heavily imply it without having the balls to actually own up to their position.
Speaking as someone who would not at all be upset to see a rocket happen to fall on Netanyahu and Ben Gvir.
It’s fairly obvious who’s a bad actor and who actually wants peace. I mean, if someone says “it’s wrong to kill children, but”, that tells you everything you need to know.
Frankly, it’s the same behavior as conservatives. They look at the people affected and then decide how they feel about the act. They don’t universally condemn the act.
