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Tarballs are not built from source?

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The tarballs are the official distributions of the source code. The maintainer had git remove the malicious entry point when pushing the newest versions of the source code while retaining it inside these distributions.

All of this would be avoided if Debian downloaded from GitHub’s distributions of the source code, albeit unsigned.

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All of this would be avoided if Debian downloaded from GitHub’s distributions of the source code, albeit unsigned.

In that case they would have just put it in the repo, and I’m not convinced anyone would have caught it. They may have obfuscated it slightly more.

It’s totally reasonable to trust a tarball signed by the maintainer, but there probably needs to be more scrutiny when a package changes hands like this one did.

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Downloading from github is how NixOS avoided getting hit. On unstable, that is, on stable a tarball gets downloaded (EDIT: fixed links).

Another reason it didn’t get hit is that the exploit is debian/redhat-specific, checking for files and env variables that just aren’t present when nix builds it. That doesn’t mean that nix couldn’t be targeted, though. Also it’s a bit iffy that replacing the package on unstable took in the order of 10 days which is 99.99% build time because it’s a full rebuild. Much better on stable but it’s not like unstable doesn’t get regular use by people, especially as you can mix+match when running NixOS.

It’s probably a good idea to make a habit of pulling directly from github (generally, VCS). Nix checks hashes all the time so upstream doing a sneak change would break the build, it’s more about the version you’re using being the one that has its version history published. Also: Why not?

Overall, who knows what else is hidden in that code, though. I’ve heard that Debian wants to roll back a whole two years and that’s probably a good idea and in general we should be much more careful about the TCB. Actually have a proper TCB in the first place, which means making it small and simple. Compilers are always going to be an issue as small is not an option there but the likes of http clients, decompressors and the like? Why can they make coffee?

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You’re looking at the wrong line. NixOS pulled the compromised source tarball just like nearly every other distro, and the build ends up running the backdoor injection script.

It’s just that much like Arch, Gentoo and a lot of other distros, it doesn’t meet the gigantic list of preconditions for it to inject the sshd compromising backdoor. But if it went undetected for longer, it would have met the conditions for the “stage3”/“extension mechanism”.

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