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DST during winter = permanent depression.

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You are aware that the actual amount of daylight doesnโ€™t change when we move the clocks right?

It really comes down to when youโ€™d rather have more daylight, morning or evening.

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Evening

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Agreed. Thatโ€™s why DST is best.

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Except that it doesnโ€™t. Take a look at daylight data for 20 Dec here https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/uk/london

Daylight: 08:03 - 15:53

Thatโ€™s ST obv. Now letโ€™s convert it to DST, that will be 9:03 - 16:53. Letโ€™s say you work a standard 9-5 job. Well, 9:03 is after you start working and 16:53 is before you finish. Thus you get ZERO daylight during the day in DST. You get almost an hour in the morning with ST.

Now letโ€™s move further away from equator https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/latvia/riga

Daylight: 08:59 - 15:43

Well, DST is a perma fucking depression now as youโ€™re robbed from the very few minutes you had before.

How about further North https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/finland/helsinki

Daylight: 09:23 - 15:12

No wonder Finland has such high suicide rates during winterโ€ฆ

P.S. It is also worth noting that daylight grows the closer you get to the equator and it grows in the morning, not in the evening. You can see from the examples above that their evening difference is smaller than the morning one. Thereโ€™s just no point having DST.

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Iโ€™m missing your point. Do you think that moving the clocks is having an effect on the tilt of the earth? Or are you just trying to explain to me how daylength and latitude are related?

I know quite well how dark it gets in the north. I live in the north. Luckily, the sun still rises and sets at very predictable intervals. If I want to enjoy sunlight, I simply need to be awake at some point that coincides with when the sun is up.

You are also aware that not everyone works the exact same hours, right? And windows exist?

Use a different example to make the opposite point: Iโ€™d like the sun to be out for at least an hour after I get home from my โ€œ9-5โ€, so if the sun sets at 1700 Iโ€™m standard time, I am depressed. But in DST, I get to spend an hour in my garden.

See? The debate is stupid. Do you want more daylight in the morning or afternoon. Thatโ€™s the only question. The amount of daylight is not affected by clocks.

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