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Presumptuous gesture there, personally I supported Sanders in both 2016 and 2020 primaries, but failing that I’ll take who has a chance to stop a greater threat over making some protest gesture by writing in someone who has no chance given the realities of the established system.

Along with fighting, downplaying, undermining, and trivializing anyone who sees things differently.

There are plenty of moderate and liberal voters finger wagging us to support their pro-corporate trash candidate. We don’t need you joining their ranks. What we need is for you to tell them they either need to make material compromises with us or lose to MAGA.

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See, I won’t do that because these sort of ultimatums are counter productive to the larger goal. If liberal ideals are the end target then saying ‘give it now or let MAGA take over for all I care’ ends up putting everything that HAS been gained at risk to make a point. Letting the far right take control will inevitably move everyone and everything further away from the end goals making it that much more unlikely to make up that lost ground and make any progress in future administrations.

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See, I won’t do that because these sort of ultimatums are counter productive to the larger goal.

You’re blindly accepting ultimatums handed to us daily by moderate and liberals and then calling it out when we fight back. You’re trying to hold us to a different standard than liberal and moderate voters.

putting everything that HAS been gained at risk

Again, this is a two way street. If moderates and liberals aren’t willing to make material compromises with us they are also putting “everything that has been gained at risk”.

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What I accept is math, nothing more or less.

Take a basic presumption that things are near a 50/50 split but on the optimistic premise that Biden ends up with say 53% of the vote leaving 47%✓to Trump. Now this ‘movement’ comes along and convinces maybe 10% of those people to go some other direction because ‘Biden bad’ regardless of the issues with Trump.

You now get a 43/47/10 split, which given the nature of the electoral college actually ends up with a Trump landslide claiming the electors in multiple contested state.

Unless you are willing to say that Biden is at least as bad as or worse than Trump (in which case you may as well vote for Trump), or are convinced that you can get a near unanimous vote to go outside the nominated candidate for the Democrat party, then all your efforts does is support a Trump victory. Your personal morals being placated won’t do a thing to save Palestine, preserve rights for vulnerable populations, or anything else of consequence.

What this ends up as is essentially the ‘Bernie broes’ from 2016 who refused to support Clinton and helped get Trump a first term.

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