But of course we all know that the big manufacturers don’t do this not because they can’t but because they don’t want to. Planned obsolescence is still very much the name of the game, despite all the bullshit they spout about sustainability.

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Selling you a gadget for $ 1000 every two years will always be more profitable than selling you one very five years and doing service in the meantime.

Are you aware that the current version of iOS is supported by the phones Apple released in 2018? And they’re still releasing security updates for the prior version, with support for 2017’s iPhone 8?

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and thats fine until you need replacement for a cracked screen or a bad battery and you find out its almost as expensive as a brand new phone. it good that they are doing it but software is just 50% of the problem.

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This is before you even get into the ewaste and limited precious metals

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Even for unrepairable, at fault replacement(you stepped on it) apple will normally sell you a reconditioned perfect replacement for 50% the cost.

Reliable repair and ultrafast swap and restore are one off the reasons I stick with apple.

In no case is it ever “ almost the price of a new one”.

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ill repost this for good measure:

thats the price of another equivalent, or a decent brand new android.

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A battery replacement from Apple itself for an iPhone 8 is $69. You can get third-party replacements for less. They actually offer battery replacements going back to the 5s (released in 2013) and screen repairs going back to the iPhone 6.

A decade of first-party hardware support for the most likely to fail components in a phone is pretty hard to square with allegations of “planned obsolescence.”

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Perhaps the easier argument is that they try to create a sense of urgency to sell people what they don’t need.

Hmm, I wonder what the latest iPhone would look like if Apple were on a once every two years release schedule instead of annual. I can see arguments for the same, better, and worse.

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most people will probably need to pay someone to do it for them too.

and it aint close to being that “cheap” in my country.

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Well Say whatever about apple but my grandma is running an iPhone 5 for years, replaced the battery from a third party repair shop last year and it keep working absolutely perfectly. There was absolutely no issue finding someone to replace it and it costs 40€.

But yeah, if we had bought her a shity android third grade phone, support would be long gone and the thing barely working. Would have bought one or two other phone in the meantime.

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Apple go out of their way to make it difficult for 3rd parties repair shops to get parts and same goes for “official” repair partners who are also gimped in what they’re allowed to repair.

I imagine this isn’t want you meant when you said say whatever you will about Apple.

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Apple is on it’s best way to kill all 3rd party repair shops. Luis Rossman has many videos about it. Basically you don’t get any schematics, Apple makes it illegal for you to buy replacement parts and they make it more difficult to repair anything.

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That’s fine for the iPhone 5 before they got as greedy as they are in modern times. Latest generation iPhones have parts locked to the motherboard of the phone, making it alot harder for 3rd party technicians to make repairs without bricking the phone. I forget the name of the YouTuber I think it’s Louis Hoffman, he goes into alot more detail on this.

But you are right in a sense, if you never break your phone, it’ll last until the battery does. If you get it repaired at a 3rd party shop that’s not apple certified (a really expensive certification to get, not just for upfront cash but they restrict what you’re allowed to work on to keep the certification) you risk walking away with a very expensive paper weight

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Apple got in trouble for lowering CPU speed with a software update. They said it’s to help old batteries but it made the experience noticable worse so it appeared like they tried to make getting a new phone more appealing by gimping old ones.

Updating proprietary software need not be in the user’s best interests.

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Checking in on a five year old XS MAXXX here. Runs like the day I got it.

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