I know this is typical for the US so this is more for US people to respond to. I wouldn’t say that it is the best system for work, just wondering about the disconnect.

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Now I have been outa school since 2008, but back then, in public school, they didn’t teach us shit. Like actual useful things. How to deal with emotions, personal finance, How to deal with police, mindfulness, critical thinking…nothing. all busy work and history through the American lense (propaganda). I even had a science teacher who was super religious and said earth was created 6000 years ago…it was geology ffs. Math was the worst imo. Solve for X, zero context. The only reasoning they gave to learn it was “to get in to college”.

Safe to say I didn’t go to college.

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If you didn’t learn that stuff, that’s on your parents, not your teachers. They’re not there to raise you.

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Not all parents are equal. It’d be cool if we valued our young, regardless of from whom they came from. Nobody gets to decide whether to be born or not, but they’re still forced to accept the terms of service.

Maybe we should try to value… people?.. in general? But who honestly gives a fuck, I got too much on my own plate to really think about it anyway

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That’s why they’re all entitled to a free education in most modern democracies.

Unfortunately not all parents are equal, that’s true. But there’s not much that can be done about that which child protection agencies don’t already cover.

Teachers can’t raise their students.

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Yeah, it’s not like they are part of an institution designed to ensure a baseline level of education within society. Oh, wait.

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That’s right, to educate you, not to raise you.

A basic level of education to function at work. That’s literally why modern schooling was created during the industrial revolution.

What the fuck do you think parents are supposed to do? Just pop you out of a vagina, feed you, and leave everything else to other people?

I’m sorry your parents were so shit, anon.

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Some people don’t have parents. But I generally agree with you.

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12 points

If you have to deal with police you SHUT THE FUCK UP. You can’t beat them at their own game

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Which should be taught, imo. police are not your friends. They arrest you for profit. I learned how to deal the hard way. But least I know now. I guess teaching it would be counter to the whole reason of policing so yea. 🤷

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You had me until math. I used algebra every day of my blue collar life. Fun fact, the more math that you know directly correlates to your income more than any other subject.

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Friendly reminder that correlation does not equal causation.

Intelligence is the most likely mediator between those two variables. Intelligent people can grasp mathematical concepts easier and are more likely to use it, and intelligent people tend to shoot for higher paying jobs that challenge them.

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I use math everyday as well in the trades. Not too complex math, but my point was not the math itself, rather the way it was taught to me and the context given, which was none. I’m definitely not saying don’t teach math, quite the opposite. I’m a hands on learner. Math for the sake of math to 15 yr old me seemed like an empty exercise. If I could do it again, I’d probably be good at it. But that’s life.

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Pure math is just too abstract to make sense. When a teacher says the only reason to learn it is to get in a college, yeah, that’s terrible teaching. A halfway decent teacher would at least orally give some RL examples people might need to use mental math, like calculating whether the 300g or the 500g packet is cheaper per gram

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