Lemdro.id

-1 points

1 year ago

Changing even a single letter will completely scramble your password with hash, so for all intents and purpose it is equivalent to a unique password.

Though I do admit it can get a bit tedious, I’ll definitly look into self-hosting, thanks for the recommendation

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lazynooblet@lazysoci.al

2 points

1 year ago

Password are leaked all the time. You are trusting the website with your password, but won’t trust a password manager.

There are self hosted versions of password managers that solve the issues you described. Just read the comments here, some great recommendations.

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0 points

1 year ago

Password managers holds the key to all my other accounts, where as a random poorly secured site do not. Of course I will have less trust in a password host, a compromised host means I also lose my banking and work account, but if a hacker got my free-manga.net password, well they can enjoy my shitty isekai collection for all I care.

The biggest security issue was always shared password leads to poorly secured site compromising highly secured sites, and thats why unique passwords are important. You might be thinking the change-one-letter password is similar to sharing password, but that is just not how hash works.

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lazynooblet@lazysoci.al

2 points

1 year ago

Password managers holds the key to all my other accounts, where as a random poorly secured site do not

You admitted your passwords are not unique or random, so they do in fact have a definite insight into your other passwords.

a compromised host means I also lose my banking and work account

All password managers recommended in this thread use the master password to encrypt your data.

a compromised host

As suiggested, there are self-hosted versions of these password managers so you don’t necessarily need to trust a host

but that is just not how hash works

You are holding onto the “hash” premise but you aren’t guarenteed that your passwords are being hashed. As I said before, if a site is compromised and your not-random password is leaked, you are vulnerable to having all of your accounts exposed.

I think you are set in your ways, I have tried to enlighten you. I hope your choices don’t come back to bite you in the future.

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0 points

1 year ago

if you’re interested, look up how modern encryption and password cracking works. Theres really no way for me to explain why what I’m doing is more secure than a manager when you don’t even know what “unique” or “random” means in encryption, let alone how to maximize them for security.

In anycase thanks for all the suggestions

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lazynooblet@lazysoci.al

1 point

1 year ago

I totally understand. I think you’re missing my point.

I am willing to bet multiple sites we both signed up store their passwords in cleartext (or unsalted hashes, or broken hashing methods).

So the attackers now have one of our passwords. They may even have a number of our passwords. In my case, using a password manager, the attacker has multiple completely random strings that I have used as passwords. In your case, the attacker has 2 passwords that look very much the same, although a little changed. You are now screwed.

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0 points

1 year ago

Then you should know that attackers don’t take your plain-text or cracked password and the start manually guessing similar codes on your other accounts, unless they are exactly the same. They always need to get a copy of your password (we’ll assume its hashed), then start the guess work using a decoder.

How secure your password is to the program depend on its entropy, which depends on the password’s length and possible characters. Two passwords are either exactly the same or completely different, and not how similar it “looks” to human.

Now, obviously if you make a easy-to-guess scramble (e.g. password123 becomes password123facebook for, well, facebook) then the hacker can do a custom decoder and this does compromise security. There are a lot of little tricks to avoid this, in anycase it will be secure as long as you maintain a high entropy.

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