A judge ordered Planned Parenthood to hand records of transgender care over to Andrew Bailey.

A St. Louis judge has ruled that Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey is entitled to Planned Parenthood’s transgender care records, ordering the nonprofit to turn over some of its most sensitive files to the man who has built his unelected political career on restricting health care access for trans people.

In his Thursday decision, Circuit Judge Michael Stelzer wrote that Bailey can collect documents under Missouri’s consumer protection statute that aren’t protected under federal mandate, namely the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, better known as HIPAA.

“It is clear from the statute that the Defendant has the broad investigative powers when the consumer is in possible need of protection and there is no dispute in this matter,” wrote Stelzer. “Therefore, the Defendant is entitled to some of the requested documents within his [Civil Investigative Demand].”

Bailey, who last year attempted to implement a ban on gender-affirming care for people of all ages, was quick to celebrate the decision, calling it a “big day” for the state.

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Puberty blockers used for normal testable medical disorders, I agree but that is different than for trans related things. And there are also surgeries on minors happening. Do you actually think if a 13 year old takes homone blockers till they are 18 and then stops their body is not permanently harmed or altered?

The question you have to answer is what is the desistance rate for minors? Not detransition, desistance. For your own ideology that number is super important.

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It’s a medical disorder. It’s a normal testable medical disorder. Thank you for admitting puberty blockers are safe and have been used since the 1980s.

Now please link me evidence that surgery is happening on minors in the United States. Because if that’s what your argument in fact hinges on show me the evidence.

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Yes it absolutely is a medical disoder, I 100% agree, but its a medical disorder that you cand directly test for.

Its not a ton of minors getting surguries, something like 300 a year, but that is not what the argument hinges on, but I can find the data if you really want it.

So again, what is the desistance rates for minors? This is the important number you dont seem to want to find out.

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Hey I’m going to help you with that link real quick. The rates of desistance from kids that have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria is very very low. Kids that are not diagnosed with gender dysphoria are not receiving gender affirming care.

The desistance rates for kids that self-identified as trans are very high. But those kids aren’t getting gender-affirming care. It takes a medical diagnosis. And when there is a medical diagnosis the rates of desistance are very very low.

Now do you have actual evidence that surgeries are happening on minors?

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The research on desistance has methodology issues. I just read an article on it.

https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/441784/the-controversial-research-on-desistance-in-transgender-youth

Now surgery on minors. Show me the evidence that this is happening.

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