Itamar Ben Gvir, Israel’s far-right national security minister, has called for the execution of Palestinian prisoners to ease overcrowding in the country’s jails.

Writing on social media, he welcomed a decision by the Israeli army to build 936 additional prison places for “security prisoners”. “The additional construction will allow the prison service to take in more terrorists, and will bring a partial solution to the prison crisis that exists in the Shabak,” he said, referring to the Israeli Prison Service.

“The death penalty for terrorists is the right solution to the incarceration problem, until then - glad that the government approved the proposal I brought.”

During a visit by members of the Public Defender’s Office, squalid conditions were noted, including “intolerable overcrowding”, with less than three square metres of space per person, poor sanitary conditions, pest issues, inadequate ventilation, and a lack of basic necessities for the incarcerated.

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But when I compare this genocide to the Holocaust I get called an antisemite

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those people are saying that in bad faith. they’re wiping their asses with the memory of the holocaust, not you

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Yes, that comparison is absurd. Don’t do that.

30’000 death, including the terrorists mind you, in more than 6 months means roughly 160 per day. The numbers are hardly going up in the past months.

Ausschwitz, one concentration camp out of many, saw more than 1 million people murdered in about 3 years, about 900 per day.

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so when the entire population of gaza strip gets murdered is your argument gonna be “it’s not a holocaust because there were only 2.2 million Palestinians to begin with”

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Only pure death figures which match Auschwitz are actual genocides. Got you.

(Fucking what?)

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See that’s where you are wrong. Calling evil by showing how it is similar to another evil isn’t trying to minimize one. Is it just about numbers? Their universities, schools, hospitals, records and cultures are being destroyed as we speak. Children are being starved. So you’re saying this isn’t evil enough? Comparing numbers is Israili propaganda at this point. Never again means never again for anyone.

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You can compare them in that they are both genocides. The Holocaust was certainly a genocide done on a much larger scale, especially near the end of Nazi Germany. But there isn’t a certain death count needed to count as a genocide, we have multiple international definitions to determine and (ideally) prevent them.

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What kind of asinine comment is this? What does it even mean? It just seems like a snarky thought-terminating cliché to avoid actually having to engage with difficult ideas. The dead don’t notice anything, they’re dead. Do you think the living notice they weren’t murdered?

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Leaving aside the fact that it’s not the volume that defines genocide, what you’re saying doesn’t seem to take into account the way that genocide ramped up from a lower initial death rate. The Nazis weren’t killing anything like that in the first 6 months.

  • Aid agencies like UNICEF are saying that at the moment a child is wounded or killed every ten minutes in Gaza.

  • In 0.5 years the Gaza genocide has already killed about 1.5% of the population. By comparison the Bosnian genocide killed 3% of the population over 2 years.

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Yes, this comment is absurd. Don’t do that.

If you’re arguing about volume when we’re talking about a fascist occupier murdering ethnic prisoners during a genocide, your argument the way the fuck off base.

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I refuse to believe that a sane, rational person would put forth such a braindead argument in good faith.

(With my apologies to any braindead people and their families/friends for the unflattering use of the adjective.)

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Comparing people that get round up and murdered in insane scales with people in a war zone getting notified about bombings and not leaving is the braindead argument to me.

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Unhinged lunacy.

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