Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and other European leaders have applauded the US for passing a vital €89 billion aid bill which has been struggling to make it through the House of Representatives for months.

The House swiftly approved roughly €89 billion in foreign aid for Ukraine, Israel and other US allies in a rare Saturday session as Democrats and Republicans banded together after months of hard-right resistance over renewed American support for repelling Russia’s invasion.

With an overwhelming vote, €57 billion in aid for Ukraine passed in a matter of minutes, a strong showing as American lawmakers race to deliver a fresh round of US support to the war-torn ally. Many Democrats cheered on the House floor and waved blue-and-yellow flags of Ukraine.

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Oh geez…you’re spending way too much time on Lemmy/Reddit…Republicans are all in favor of helping Ukraine, they’re just more careful about sending billions and billions and it becomes an endless money pit…that shit happens all the time, and the Republicans are the “traitors” for questioning why and where all the money is being sent. If it was up to Democrats, there’d be NO questions… just send money!

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I didn’t see them pinching the pennies when they were trying to build pointless their 2000 mile border wall

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“The United States needs to stop getting involved in everyone else’s business” - Sincerely, The World

“The United States needs to do more to get involved in everyone else’s business” - Sincerely, The World

I swear… if it’s not a war that’s supported by the Left, than we’re all traitors for questioning the finances behind it…

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I like it when people and institutions do good things, I dislike it when people and institutions do bad things, simply enough. If there’s one or two good things the US does at the geopolitical stage, and they hesitate, I’m just going to sigh in dissapointment.

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Ukraine is supported by the entire Free World. Putin’s Evil Empire and imperialist war of aggression is supported by neofascists.

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Dont lump democrats in with the left, we see them as right wing

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Who cares what Russia says? They’re also claiming Ukraine is rightfully there’s…the point is to make sure the funds are doing what they’re supposed too. If both sides just say “here, take whatever you want!” what good is that? It’s about checks and balances, we don’t want this to turn into another Vietnam…

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That’s not what the republicans blocking the aid have been saying: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67649497

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Here’s the facts:

  • freedom is hard and expensive
  • the conservative “I got mine;fuck you” doesn’t work when it’s ‘others’ in need; it doesn’t even work when it’s poorer Americans in need
  • the sea lion questioning is a stalling tactic; always has been.
  • Republicans can’t even keep a Senate leader, and this guy was right up their seditious theocratic enslaving-women hell-hole alley. They will readily agree to nothing that doesn’t fit their cruel and narrow ideological dependencies.

It always was going to BE a money pit, as that’s the alternative to Normandy and ditching the UN shackles (which is a terrible idea but required).

Time to spend 1/10th as much on Ukraine’s military as America spends on its own, and solve this shit.

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House of Representatives majority leader, not Senate.

But otherwise, yes.

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Good points, with noting that the aid to Ukraine can easily be justified from a selfish perspective. The fact that it’s also a truly just cause isn’t really part of the equation for a lot of those politicians.

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Get back to servicing putin’s dick.

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Hey man, I’m all in favor in helping Ukraine, I think we should absolutely do what we need to do…as do most Republicans. However, if history has taught us anything, it’s also that we cannot be an endless money pit for European affairs. I have no issues giving Ukraine money, but I think it’s always a good thing to question everything.

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if history has taught us anything,

…it is that appeasement causes far greater problems in the long term. We need Churchill not Chamberlain.

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Exactly Bernie Sanders’ reasons behind his view on foreign policy and why that money should go to improving the well-being of those that work for it.

I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. I thought Lemmy’s self-proclaimed left-wingers loved Bernie. Apparently they hate him now.

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Anybody who will actually take the time to read your comment by this point knows you’re full of shit. Republicans aren’t the party of fiscal responsibility. The only situation in which they actually care about saving money is if it saves money for their 1% handlers.

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So, there should NO questioning funds that are sent all over the world? The US should just say “here, take whatever you want!”

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Funding this proxy war is probably the absolute smartest thing the US could do. The Ukrainians are badasses (read up on their ice fortress revolution in 2014) and are fighting for their homeland. Russia is our second most powerful adversary in the world (and are far more adversarial with us than China) and this war is draining their morale and economy.

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I’m genuinely thankful you’ve made it this obvious how much of a fucking moron you are as I can block you immediately and get on with my day.

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Let me guess, only left politics and democrats are your happy place? God forbid anyone disagrees…

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Now I have you tagged as “liar”

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Every dollar send to help Ukraine will save about 10 dollars you don’t have to spend in a full out war.

It’s an easy calculation only a Russian shill or the people dumb enough to believe their lies would dispute.

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Why are you being down voted? Is this place becoming an I support the current thing place too?

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If the current thing is the least worst option, then yes. If you can’t see it’s about least-worst and not branding, you may need to repeat some courses.

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It might be a commentary on critical thinking, who knows? Definitely not you!

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Critical thinking was not taught to me in school or university. Just memorize, spew nonsense to score more points on ‘analysis’ questions and google the fuck out of everything.

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Yes, it’s Reddit 2.0: “This is a Liberal/Democrat site ONLY!”

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Fucking old cock. Disgusting

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