Comment by DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world on 93 Year Old Woman Arrested for Resisting Eviction

This is actually an older news story, and it does appear as though she recovered from this before her death.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/14389544

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Let me tell you a little secret (that is a lie, it just basic logic). The reason every “communist country” is in name only is because a real one can’t exist. Not for any real length of time anyway. As long as the system requires humans to make decisions, they will make selfish decisions. And socialism just make it so much easier for few decision makers to take all the power.

Why would “making selfish decisions” be worse in a collectively owned system where industry is run by the public, than in a Capitalist system where the only decisions made are selfish ones?

What kind of purely vibes-based analysis is this?

So… capitalism is bad and if you do not like it, move to Cuba which is still capitalist?

yes, that is the stupidity of it. Saying you want to live in True Communism is like saying you want to live in Narnia. Might sound nice, but it is not possible

You were the one who said it though…

Wait, are you talking about socialism or communism?

Both. It applies to both if they are at the extreme end. Socialism has extra steps.

And to be absolutely clear, I mean socialism with no capitalistic elements. An in the middle system is what I am advocating from the start.

What are these “Capitalistic Elements” that mean you cannot have Socialism?

The greedy motivations of decision makers being aligned with prosperity for the people and separated from lawmaking power.

How do you make a successful company? Sell good cheap things to the people. You get filthy rich, but people have good cheap products to buy that would not exist otherwise. And they get their share in form of wages.

Government needs to be separate to be able to legislate worker protections such as minimal wage, work safety, etc.

Are you under the impression that in Socialism, economic planning is done without the participation of the Proletariat? That’s nonsense.

Secondly, products do not need to be good to make a profit, hence the process of enshittification. Workers also get less than their share, they make all of the Value but the Capitalist entitles themselves to the bulk of that Value.

Government does not need to be separate. This is nothing but vibes based analysis.

https://lemmy.world/comment/9597138

If the proletariat participates, the values are misaligned the other way. See thread above.

As for whether products need to be good, there are two caveats. In most cases of enshittification online, you are mistaking what is the product. The advertisers are the customers that pay, users are the product.

The other caveat is anti-competitive and anti-consumer practices which is one of the many reasons why you need independent government to regulate those.

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