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Ubuntu has long suffered from NIH syndrome, constantly inventing its own non-standard components (snaps, Unity, etc) and trying to make them ā€œwinā€ by forcing them on their own users. Reminds me of Microsoft with its non-standard Internet Explorer, its own non-standard version of Java and others.

The lesson is to use a Community distro, not a Corporate distro. When the distroā€™s goals align with its communityā€™s, even a distro based on Ubuntu will usually be better than straight Ubuntu. For example Mint keeps the good things about Ubuntu (in Mintā€™s opinion of course), removes the bad things like Snaps, and adds other features that the community wants that Ubuntu wonā€™t (like built-in Flatpak support among other things).

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The lesson is to use a Community distro, not a Corporate distro.

Okay, but you donā€™t see these kinds of complaints with Fedora or SUSE. While I donā€™t necessarily disagree with your core point (community is better), this doesnā€™t seem like an issue with corporations so much as an issue strictly with Canonical.

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Been running KDE on fedora for the last 6 years after giving up on everything Ubuntu based back then. Havenā€™t thought to look elsewhere since as its been just fine

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I went through something similar 2 years ago. I was sold in PopOS, mainly because Debian based distros were easier to find help for. Almost 2 years ago I started using Fedora on my PC while still having PopOS on my laptop. Within 3 weeks I was setting my laptop up with Fedora as well, and Iā€™ve never looked back (other than the regular distro-hopping bursts, lol).

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Youā€™re being purposefully obtuse. Corporate distro means ā€œby and for companiesā€ which rolling releases are not

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Okay? OpenSUSE Leap is a point release by and for companies. While Fedora isnā€™t necessarily a server distro, it IS a point release designed with enterprise use in mind.

If we look at both of their strictly enterprise counterparts, Iā€™ve never heard of any complaints about SUSE and any complaints with RHEL Iā€™ve heard are with source availability. Neither of them have the mega amounts of bad publicity of Canonical.

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This is why I moved to Linux Mint. Then, when I got tired of having to reinstall the entire OS every time thereā€™s a new version I moved again. Spare a thought for the poor saps who feel stuck with an OS from a single vendor. And sometimes even paying for the privilege. That being said fund open source. Freedom isnā€™t free.

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Mint has an auto-upgrade tool so you donā€™t have to reinstall each time. It used to be only for minor version upgrades but now you can auto-upgrade to a new major version as well. In any case there are plenty of great distros to choose from.

And yes! whatever distro (and other FLOSS software) you use, support them with a donation if you can! When you consider the value you are getting for free vs. what youā€™d be spending on proprietary software, itā€™s not so hard to do and feels good too.

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Alsoā€¦ the amount of money Iā€™ve saved by being able to revive old hardware! I havenā€™t bought a new computer in 11 years. My computer before that (and still working) was a gift in 2006ā€¦ that bitch is old enough to vote.

I have other computers that people have given to me because they were ā€œjust too old,ā€ but for me, it was an upgrade. I revived a windows 98-era HP a few years ago, just so I could use the 9-pin connection to fix my bricked OG Xbox that I was modding.

Granted, I donā€™t game on PC or require heavy lifting (though I am saving for a personal build, because thereā€™s some hobbies I just canā€™t do without a good desktop), but for everyday use, I have more than enough.

I currently have 4 ā€œworkingā€ computers. Two of them are my main, one still needs to be ā€œreinvigoratedā€ (itā€™s 18 years old), and one is my server.

I have a 5th desktop that was given to me (because it was too slow/old), and it just recently crapped out on me (either because of windows bullshit, or a bad hdd. But I have my hunches). So itā€™s about to be revived when I have time.

Hardest part was getting my wife onboard with switching to Linux, instead of buying a new computer. But now sheā€™s getting ready to switch her Mac to Linux because itā€™s been struggling. And I think sheā€™s starting to realize that a brand-new computer isnā€™t really ā€œnecessaryā€, if all youā€™re doing is email, browsing web, and editing docs. Shit, our phones can handle most of that; you donā€™t need a $1k+ computer for that, or pay for windows software that will barely work on the hardware you have.

So yeahā€¦ end rant. Absolutely love how much Linux has breathed new life into my old hardware. Has saved me time and time again, as well as a bunch of money. I definitely need to throw a donation at a distro, cause they have saved me more than just money at this point

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Mint has been my goto desktop distro for many years now. It is everything Ubuntu used to be. For servers Debian is the answer.

For those that prefer non-debian based Linux then Fedora variants are the way to go.

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I was on Mint over 10 years ago and noped out of it when an auto update borked my system. I canā€™t remember what it was, and maybe if it happened to me today, I could work my way through it. But, as it stood at the time, I remember feeling rolling was the way to go.

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