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Biden does not share my view that genocide is bad. If you want to vote for genocide guy because orange man bad, you are devoid of morals. You are a spineless worm, deserving only scorn and derision.

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You somehow think “orange man” would be less into genocide? Genuinely? How???

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Obviously Trump won’t be any better than Biden, but if Biden wants people to vote for him rather than sit home and vote for nobody, he should consider not doing genocide. You know, an elected politician trying to represent their voters? The thing democracies are nominally for?

The choices as they stand right now are:

  1. Vote for genocide
  2. Vote for genocide
  3. Don’t vote

This sucks.

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Oh, I fully acknowledge this sucks. Juuust as frustrated as anybody, friend.

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Quick correction:

  1. Vote for genocide
  2. Vote for increased genocide, plus the autocratic downfall of the US
  3. Don’t vote

Edit: nice kneejerk downvote. Should’ve known not to get actual discourse from a hexbear account

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Trump derangement syndrome really is real if you think there exists a worse possibility than the maximalist position already held by the biggest zionist politician America has had in the last 70 years. You think ‘orange man’ is going to be worse just because ‘orange man bad’?

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Genocide is a deal breaker. Unless democrats create an arms embargo on Israel, zero chance I vote for them

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It’s a really lazy reduction, too. Biden doesn’t spend his days just looking for ways to support genocide. Even if Trump and Biden are “essentially the same” with regard to genocide (they’re not), you can treat that as a logically moot issue. Therefore, you have to look at their other points, and in no way is Trump a better option than Biden in that regard, unless you’re personally getting kickbacks from the Trump grift mill.

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There’s what Biden is actually doing vs what people think Trump will do. You think Trump will worsen the genocide - but what does that mean, materially? Biden is already sending Israel all the weapons they want and giving them all the air cover they need politically. What more could Trump do?

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Biden literally did that. He personally went around reporting requirements so that he could send Isreal a greater variety of weapons for their genocide without congressional oversight.

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Even if Trump and Biden are “essentially the same” with regard to genocide, you can treat that as a logically moot issue.

This is where we disagree. I can not use moral relativism when a party engages in genocide. Further, i don’t agree that voting for Biden is, as many pro Biden folk argue, a repudiation of Trump.

A vote for Biden (or any representative for that matter), to me, is an implicit acknowlegement i agree with his leadership. An approval and statement that he represents my beliefs and shares, a little, my values.

There is no such thing, in my mind, as negative voting (voting against a candidate). This is not how it works, not how i will not be coerced into thinking it works.

A vote for a representative is a positive action. I will not play a game of “what if the boogeyman tho!?” with a party shown time and again to be against my best interest, to ignore my very life in favor of the pocketbooks of donors…

Now, they ask me to help them stop the boogeyman as they simultaneously stand aside while he strips my right to protest, my right to privacy, rip families apart, refuse my brothers and sisters right to live, and kill tens of thousands.

Voting as you imagine it is nothing but reductive. Worse, venal. Finally, to consider genocide as “logically moot” is not logical. It’s fucking gross, and i feel absolutely sorry for you that you’ve come to this conclusion.

I can only hope you put more thought into this immediately

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Biden does not share my view that genocide is bad

And Trump does?

lol

lmao

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my genocider is better than your the other genocider, so much so that I’ll give my active and explicit support to my genocider

k

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I mean, by virtue of the the fact that Trump will 1000% make things worse in Gaza, literally yes.

You’re talking like if you get the option between getting shot in the foot or the face, you’d pick the face just to make a point.

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