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Soon we will have to call it GNU/systemd/Linux

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Nah. Replacing the kernel is probably planned for the next point release - it’ll just be GNU/systemd

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Can we rename it GNUtriSystemD?

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I mean it should kind of already be something like GNU/SystemD/X11/PipeWire/Linux, I guess.

It’s not like the GNU utils are the only massive integral part of the OS. I think GNU/Linux caught on squarely because many people follow Stallman, and that’s how he wants people to refer to it.

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It definitely made way more sense at early on. I mean GNU made most of UX of using Linux at some point. Systemd, and the browser now make a much bigger portion than before, and the world is more than GNOME now too.

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Systemd makes life easy. It also makes Linux more teachable. I like accessibility and don’t even mind this

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hard disagree. life with plain text logs and daemon init scripts was so easy and nice. But we can’t have nice things…

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Those hacked together system-specific bash scripts were shit. Having a standard way of creating, starting, ensuring restarts,and logging services is so much better.

You can still get all the plain text logs you like.

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You know what’s nice? Being able to sit down at any Linux distro and being able to set up and configure services without Googling how to use that particular distro’s init system.

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But it’s so unbearably slow.

Me when my computer that has a typical uptime of 37 days boots up in 7 seconds with systemd instead of 5.5 seconds with runit: 😡😡😡😡

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Lmao yeah exactly

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I’m not on the systemd hate train by any means, but I don’t understand how this is any improvement over pkexec

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I don’t understand how this is any improvement over pkexec

That has the same problem as sudo: the SUID bit is set for it.

The fact that run0 uses polkit is more of a byproduct that this kinda authentication is already done with polkit all over the place in systemd. You can have individual subcommand accessible to different users (for example everyone can systemctl status, but systemctl reboot needs to be in the wheel group) which is why its generally used within systemd already. And it wouldn’t surprise me if again you can do it with this as well, limiting what commands can unconditionally run, need prompt or are completely blocked.

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I’m unclear from the documentation, does pkexec work under non-GUI contexts?

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Or as I’ve taken to calling it, GNU+systemd+Linux.

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