Comment by ElephantInTheRoom@lemmy.ml on "Disable adblocker"-thing on YouTube is back

Hey everyone,

since YouTube started annoying us with their “disable ad blocker” thing, I managed to get rid of it by uBlock Origin and a Tampermonkey script. Yet, the stupid popup is back. To everyone who’s gotten rid of it until now: What did you do? Can you point me to the resources you used? It’s annoying!

It’s all FOSS. Whoever gets doubts about the devs can check the source or have it checked by experts. They sell out or die? Switch to other frontends or forks. I’d never trust any dev blindly, but if I can choose between these ones and Google… well.

A compiled app is not FOSS unless you compile it yourself, which, shock of shocks, means need to waste time with scripts and stuff. Sorry, but you are making excuses.

I guess then we have to agree to disagree.

Trusting someone for convenience isn’t ideal, but not everyone has the time and resources to audit, compile, and host a dumb frontend for yt. Most of the people here is good enough trusting literally anyone except a big tech company, including FOSS devs, the people who check the code, and public instances of their software. Even considering recent drama (solved by the community btw) I’d trust any FOSS project over google any day.

You don’t like a compiled app differently from source code due to it not being FOSS. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say you would prefer the compilation process to be more easily verifiable for you.

Free and open-source software (FOSS) is software that is available under a license that grants the right to use, modify, and distribute the software, modified or not, to everyone free of charge.

I expect this discussion is regarding apps like LibreTube, the license of which is “GNU General Public License v3.0 or later” and is available free of charge.

The GNU General Public License grants the right to use, modify, and distribute the software, modified or not, to everyone free of charge:

Each time you convey a covered work, the recipient automatically receives a license from the original licensors, to run, modify and propagate that work, subject to this License.

The GNU General Public License can be applied to programs:

You can apply it to your programs, too.

An app (that is compiled) is a program:

An application (program), especially a small one designed for a mobile device.

Therefore, a compiled app with the GNU General Public License applied is FOSS.

I stated no such thing and a compiled app can only be assumed FOSS, unless you inspected the code prior to compile, there is no way to know for certain what is in it, only what it does.

Do you like a compiled app differently from source code used to generate it? Your previous reply made it seem that is true.

Am I incorrect in thinking that a compiled app can be assumed FOSS when the text “License: GNU General Public License v3.0 or later” is on the page I use to install it, along with a link to https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0-standalone.html

My likes and dislikes were never discussed in any way. Your entire premise is disingenuous. Assumption does not make something so.

I don’t think you answered my questions.

I started discussing your likes and dislikes, as an Internet forum is for conversation. How you choose to engage in that conversation is your choice, but it doesn’t mean a conversation isn’t happening.

The reason replied to you is that I wanted to rebut statements that I consider to be incorrect, and to save other people from taking time to do that and from seeing your comment go unanswered. I don’t really care about your replies other than to accomplish those goals. You may perceive that as being disingenuous (though I suspect your behavior is more related to the fact I have disagreements with you, or some preexisting inclination), but I don’t really care about that.

Assumptions do change people’s behavior, probably in many significant ways every day: “it doesn’t have to be fact to cause people to act”. Perhaps you should spend more time expressing your opinions in a compelling way so that people have more knowledge, and therefore don’t need to hold as many assumptions.

Ok then by your own logic you are only allowed to use Linux From Scratch and you also have to compile your browser yourself. You realize that what you are saying doesn’t make any sense at all, right?

Again, you assume things and argue against what I never said. My comment was about easy is a trap. Nothing more. Nothing less. Kindly take your posturing and sit upon it.

Sure, a userscript is one way of solving the issue. But native clients with built-in adblock are another, legitimate way of doing the exact same thing. I really don’t understand your issue with FOSS YouTube clients like FreeTube, NewPipe and LibreTube.

A: I never suggested anything remotely counter to adblock aps. I simply stated that you must understand you are trusting the dev.

B: Never stated any issue with any of those nor anything else.

C: Quit assuming intent, read what was actually written, and you may learn to understand what is being said.

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