They recovered four, three of them AT the crash sites! How. The black boxes didn’t even survive.

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Jet fuel doesn’t melt steel beams. But metal loses it’s strength while retaining its solid phase as it is heated. https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/metal-temperature-strength-d_1353.html

This is the issue with laypeople speculating on complex engineering failures. The mechanisms of action that one might intuit from looking at a complex systems failure and the ones that actually cause it are oftentimes not related to or even opposite.

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Does that link talk about the explosions in the basement?

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No, because that isn’t what we were talking about?

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Sorry, i dont debate

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Hey, you know the deal, no investigation, no right to speak. The link doesn’t talk about 9/11 at all, it talks about changes in metal strength at different temperatures.

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Ive never heard that turn of phrase, pwease explain it to me?

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My favorite comment on this was a blacksmith heating a steel bar to a few hundred degrees and then pushing it around with his pinky. Also, the sheer number of people who don’t have any conception of what a blast furnace is or how it works, how oxygen and fire interact. Idk, I always thought the “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams” thing was absurd on it’s face. It’s such a silly premise. I’ve forged metal on backyard wood fires, you just need to set the airflow up to get incredibly hot fires.

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My favorite comment on this was a blacksmith heating a steel bar to a few hundred degrees and then pushing it around with his pinky.

Ouch. 🔥

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