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Imagine any internet company lasting 50 years.

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This is why slack is bullshit. And discord. We should all go back to email. It can be stored and archived and organized and get off my lawn.

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It’s not Slack’s fault. It is a good platform for one-off messages. Need a useless bureaucratic form signed? Slack. Need your boss to okay the afternoon off? Slack. Need to ask your lead programmer which data structure you should use and why they’re set up that way? Sounds like the answer should be put in a wiki page, not slack.

All workflows are small components of a larger workplace. Emails also suck for a lot of things. They probably wouldn’t have worked in this case, memos are the logical upgrade from emails where you want to make sure everyone receives it and the topic is not up for further discussion.

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memos are the logical upgrade from emails where you want to make sure everyone receives it

uh, email is memos? email is so memos that ibm’s proprietary email management solution Lotus Notes calls the transaction “create memo” where outlook calls it “new message”.

and the topic is not up for further discussion.

bit rude, imo.

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Sorry, email is still better for all of those things. Except the wiki page, of course.

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I mean, unironically, yeah.

It’s not even that we need to go back to email. The problem isn’t moving on from outdated forms of communication, it’s that the technology being pushed as a replacement for it is throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

Which is to say nothing of the fact that all of these new platforms are proprietary, walled off, and in some cases don’t make controlling the data easy if you’re not hosting it (and their searches are trash).

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all of these new platforms are proprietary, walled off, and in some cases don’t make controlling the data easy if you’re not hosting it

You’ve just discovered their business case. So many new businesses these days only insinuate themselves into an existing process in order to co-opt it and charge rents.

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Even then, you get banned from Google for some reason, what then?

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  1. Don’t use google as your email provider
  2. Keep backups of your email (you can do this on gmail, too)
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Microsoft is 49.

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Yeah. Technically I’m not talking about Microsoft, as their primary product is the OS and they are not purely Internet-based. IBM, of course, is much older than that and also has some Internet products, as does every software company.

In my statement “Internet company” means a company whose only product is SaaS on the Internet; i.e. someone who, if they went away, their product would disappear with them.

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I guess it is hard to imagine an internet company lasting that long mostly because the hasn’t been around that long, it’s only been 31 years since it went public. A year later Amazon was formed. I would bet money Amazon and Google easily make it to 50. Along with many many others. A small, not overly commercialized company like slack would be crazy. I wouldn’t be surprised if they get gobbled up by a mega Corp as the enshitification continues.

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fingers crossed!

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And most microsoft products surely can run 50 years with no glitches.

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They were a software for decades before they became an “internet company”.

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IBM is 100, but the Internet didn’t exist in 1924, so we’ll say the clock starts in 1989. I’m pretty sure at least MS or IBM will be around in 15 years.

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What does IBM even do anymore? I’m guessing they just support all of their legacy products that customers are locked into.

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Bought Red hat and is trying to lock down it’s users.

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It’s basically an investment fund that runs the companies it invests in, like Alphabet, but with a bigger mix of real estate and finance investments thrown in.

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