I dont know why they have to lie about it. At $5/8ft board you’d think I paid for the full 1.5. Edit: I mixed up nominal with actual.

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Um, wait. I would think that violates some sort of law (but I guess maybe we haven’t codified this?). I mean, building plans expect standards in materials, right? So how can a building meet codes if the materials are not within the expected specs?

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Agreed, seems like some kind of weights and measures violation.

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I’m going to guess they can get away with this because 2x2s aren’t intended for structural use. I’ve never built one into a floor, wall or ceiling.

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Used for furring strips everywhere. Line a block wall with them and sheet it for example.

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To someone from central europe it’s always weird how houses get build from wood in the US. 😅 I imagine you can hear ~everything happening ~anywhere in the house?

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Would you call that a “structural use?”

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Sounds like the situation here… good call

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It’s probably 2x2PT or something. There are standards for board widths.

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The 2x4s that have been sized this way do meet structural code. It was found that a full 2x4 is way over spec’d for what they were used for, so why bother wasting extra parts of the tree?

Pretty much everything built with dimensional lumber in the last century has been done with undersized 2x4s, and it’s fine. The name stuck for historical reasons. Companies that build houses and order this stuff by the pallet all know what the real size is, and so do building inspectors.

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Rough 2x4s were 2" x 4". Then we started finishing them for better consistency, taking about 0.5" from each dimension. Later we started using saws with narrower kerfs to have less loss due to saw blade width, better cutting and planing systems so the rough size could be smaller and still have the same finished size, then they lowered finished size some more.

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These are even smaller than that. A standard 2x4 is 1.5x3.5.

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Thanks for the explainer.

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Pretty much everything built with dimensional lumber in the last century has been done with undersized 2x4s, and it’s fine.

It’s fine, folks. Nothing to see here.

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It being ugly has absolutely fuckall to do with the structural integrity

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What part of this has to do with dimensional lumber?

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You simply change the expected specs…

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