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See, this is why we can’t have nice things. Money fucks it up, every time. Fuck money, it’s a shitty backwards idea. We can do better than this.

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Hear me out. Bottle caps.

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'Nuff said!

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Nah, I can’t imagine the Fallout that would cause

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Someone comes up with something good: look what I made, we can use this to better humanity!

Corporations: How can we make money off of this?

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You can be killed with steel, which has a lot of other implications on what you do in order to avoid getting killed with steel.

Does steel fuck it all up?

Centralization is a shitty backwards idea. But you have to be very conscious of yourself and your instincts to neuter the part that tells you that it’s not to understand it.

Distributivism minus Catholicism is just so good. I always return to it when I give up on trying to find future in some other political ideology.

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This has nothing to do with centralization. AI companies are already scraping the web for everything useful. If you took the content from SO and split it into 1000 federated sites, it would still end up in a AI model. Decentralization would only help if we ever manage to hold the AI companies accountable for the en masse copyright violations they base their industry on.

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Can you explain how reddit comments or stack overflow answers are “copyright infringement”?

Doesn’t seem relevant to the specific problem this post is about.

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The irony is that folks complain about stuff like Discord partly because it cannot be scraped by search engines but that would also protect it from being scraped by AI tools.

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This has everything to do with centralization, just not with the one small context for it which you picked.

With real decentralization in place market mechanisms work.

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9 points

Anarchosyndicalism ftw.

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Of leftist ideologies it’s the best one, but not as beautiful and overarching as distributivism.

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List of Distributist parties in the UK:

  • National Distributist Party
  • British National Party
  • National Front

Hmmm, maybe the Catholic part isn’t the only part worth reviewing.

Also worth noting that the Conservative Party’s ‘Big Society’ schtick in 2010 was wrapped in the trappings of distributism.

Not that all this diminishes it entirely but it does seem to be an entry drug for exploitation by the right.

I gotta hold my hand up and state that I am not read up on it at all, so happy to be corrected. But my impression is that Pope Leo XIII’s conception was to reduce secular power so as to leave a void for the church to fill. And it’s the potential exploitation of that void that attracts the far right too.

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but it does seem to be an entry drug for exploitation by the right.

Well, it is a right ideology. It can be that, of course.

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