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Journalists say this all the time. Does this guy only follow fox news?

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Okay it’s Saturday May 11th, what are the stories from CNN, NBC, ABC, WaPo, and NYT (front pages please) which say that. I just checked and there weren’t any.

There’s trump-in-court, trump-in-irs-trouble, other things like “some say he shouldn’t be campaigning in a blue state on his day off from court” or whatever.

It’s not like a breaking news story. It’s got to be folded into the telling of all the other stories about him. He tried - and failed - to stage a goddamned coup for fuck’s sake.

Incompetently planned, ridiculously reasoned, as one would expect, but he did it nonetheless and I want it to say IN EVERY ARTICLE ABOUT HIM that he tried to stage a coup which failed. Interview justice officials as to what - EXACTLY- are they going to do when he does it again. What protections are in place to prevent him from gutting appointees and protections? Where are those news stories?

And why, after 2016 and everything that we’re saying here happened then, would anyone need to explain this?

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Their whole framing of the story should acknowledge that he’s an enemy of the United States. He got dozens of CIA assets killed, he supported our enemy in a shooting war that’s still going on, and he tried to kill a bunch of politicians to seize power. Instead, they’re treating him like a candidate for president. Every single newspaper should be running stories about what a catastrophe it would be if someone who’s so clearly hostile to the United States managed to seize control of the United States government.

It’s like those editors from World War 2 that wanted to tone down coverage of Hitler because he’s a popular and successful leader. I mean, your statement’s not fully objectively wrong. But also, objectively, you’re missing the point.

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those editors from World War 2 that wanted to tone down coverage of Hitler

Fucking bingo dude.

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I guess that you’re right they cant explictly say “Trump is a facist” because they will get sued but they hint at in and imply it in so many articles. Here’s a quick search which shows what I mean about journalists talking about this. You could find 10+ of these types of posts from each of the big news sites.

Opinion: Trump’s praise of dictators tells us all we need to know

‘It’s happening right here’: The authoritarian threat to American democracy

Why does Trump keep talking like a fascist? Because it works

Twelve signs Trump would try to run a fascist dictatorship in a second term

Talk of a Trump Dictatorship Charges the American Political Debate

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You could find 10+ of these types of posts from each of the big news sites.

These are good examples, but here’s the problem with them:

Opinion: Trump’s praise of dictators tells us all we need to know

This is an Opinion article, not a news article. In particular, the NYT likes to hide behind these, allowing opinion writers free rein while hedging and minimizing and normalizing the candidate in all the actual News articles.

‘It’s happening right here’: The authoritarian threat to American democracy

Likewise this is an interview with an author, not a news article.

Why does Trump keep talking like a fascist? Because it works

Another ‘editorial’, and Maddow is pretty great but sort of preaching to the choir. Not news reporting as such.

Twelve signs Trump would try to run a fascist dictatorship in a second term

Another Opinion piece, they even preface the author with “Perspective by” to distance themselves from it.

Talk of a Trump Dictatorship Charges the American Political Debate

This is the only actual news article of the bunch, and it is largely based on trumps famous ‘i’d be a dictator on the first day’ quote which was unfuckingbelievably outrageous in its own right. It’s probably worthy of a breakdown but I’d have to get past the paywall first. Also to note it’s on page 23 of the A section, not exactly front page anyway.

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Let’s be honest here: how many people are really still getting their news from one of those formally mainstream outlets? Not a single news outlet is in the top 50 most visited websites. Cable and satellite subscriptions are at an all-time low and nobody even bothers hooking an antenna up to their TV anymore. We all just stream everything. And when’s the last time you’ve seen a newspaper on a driveway? I know I haven’t in over a decade.

What I’m saying is that what CNN, NBC, ABC, NYT, etc. don’t report on is irrelevant, because nobody gets their news from them anymore. Most people get their news from social media and word-of-mouth.

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