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Is anybody honestly against single occupancy gender neutral bathrooms? I always took it to be a matter of multi-occupancy bathrooms.

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here is an example. im not educated enough to know the specifics, but this would bar single occupancy gender neutral bathrooms in most cases except when the building is too small it seems.

the fact that it is going to legislation at all is of course absurd and obviously just anti-woke posturing. if the government cares about “dignity and privacy” they’d ban communal bathrooms in the first place.

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Pretty sure it doesn’t ban single occupancy bathrooms. It bans multi-occupancy gender neutral bathrooms - like bathrooms with stalls that share the same set of sinks. Don’t get me wrong it’s still dumb, but not as bad as you are thinking.

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okay fair thanks for the correction. i think we can still both agree that it’s obviously just meant to antagonize people over a non-issue in order to maintain a culture war tho 👍

edit: okay im reading through again and i think i was right? and they are banning both? i welcome the insight of others in interpreting this bc now im confused as hell

As part of the regulations, contractors can construct “self-contained universal toilets” which the government said may only be constructed if a “lack of space reasonably precludes provision of single-sex toilet accommodation.”

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What the ever living fuck? Why? For what good?

Will British Airways be required to have separate toilets for men and women on their planes? If not, what is the reason for the inconsistency? If it’s allowed on an airplane, why is it not allowed on the ground?

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they won’t change it on airplanes obviously

the reason for the proposed legislation is literally just to capitalize off fearmongering. conservatives have successfully built a fucked up narrative that gender neutral=trans and that trans=rape, and so now they can pass bogus legislation that just inconveniences people in order to maintain power.

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Some would argue offering women a man-free bathroom is feminism, YMMV

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No, not really… But multi-occupancy isn’t that different. Every stall has a lock, same as out houses.

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its about the efficiency of urinals versus the trauma of cross-traffic.

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Trauma of cross traffic? Don’t you pass the opposite gender in the hallway to both gendered bathrooms anyways? Does the presence of a sink really make it suddenly traumatizing to be within view of the opposite gender?

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Everytime this nonsense comes up I point out communal bathrooms are the problem. Maybe someday people will understand.

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My church has these which is pretty funny to think about

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It’s a case of efficiency. Stalls and urinals take less space than single occupancy bathrooms - which translates into smaller buildings costing less money to build, maintain, heat, a lower impact on climate and also allowing a higher efficiency usage of land.

Besides, most places that have stalls also have at least one large gender neutral single occupancy bathroom with extra features such as a baby station and disability adaptations.

Unless there suddenly becomes a huge demand for gender neutral bathrooms, I don’t see why that additional bathroom wouldn’t be sufficient to serve people who can’t use the regular bathrooms.

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Someone must be, if the UK is banning them.

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Well, they’re not. It’s only multi occupancy ones, which I’m not sure why they’re banning because I’ve literally never seen one anywhere.

Standard all mouth, no effort needed policy by the Tories.

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Huh, I must have got the wrong impression from the angry lemmy comments that were my only source of this information.

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I believe this is England only. Health (which I believe this will fall under) is a devolved matter and the other governments are thankfully a bit more sane.

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