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If I remember correctly: If it is watertight, replaceable batteries are not required. EZ way to skirt around this stuff.

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Nah.

To ensure the safety of end-users, this Regulation should provide for a limited derogation for portable batteries from the removability and replaceability requirements set for portable batteries concerning appliances that incorporate portable batteries and that are specifically designed to be used, for the majority of the active service of the appliance, in an environment that is regularly subject to splashing water, water streams or water immersion and that are intended to be washable or rinseable.

From here: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/TA-9-2023-0237_EN.html#title1:~:text=(39)   To,by end-users

So watertight is definitely enough of a reason.

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Except this is a bullshit exception because not only is it 100% possible to make waterproof devices with replaceable batteries, they have existed for years already. There is absolutely no technical reason for this, and the exception probably only exists because the corporations influenced the legislators to effectively gut the law.

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I don’t think a phone counts as that since it’s not something that’s expected to be regularly subject to water

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That’s really stupid, waterproof phones with replaceable batteries are certainly possible and have been done before.

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We had phones with replaceable batteries for a long time. Many of them were waterproof, but none of them exploded on contact with water.

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Water resistance not waterproof. I don’t know if any general consumer phones that are waterproof.

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Yes they have, which tells me no engineers were consulted for this statement. Waterproofing and replaceable batteries is a trivial combination.

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This is simply not the case. Saying it’s ‘trivial’ is like saying it’s trivial to travel to Mars because we’ve sent things there before. Reliably sealing anything with a joint is far from trivial.

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“Apple engineers” lol

Get the Apple out of your ass

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Waterproof phones with replaceable batteries are most certainly possible and have existed for over a decade at least. Sorry, but that argument is total bullshit.

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