At various times, most social media platforms have received criticism for alleged failure to prevent distribution of copyright-infringing content. Few, however, have been threatened with widespread blocking more often than Telegram. In a row that seemed ready to boil over last year, Telegram was given an ultimatum by the Malaysian government; come to the negotiating table or face the consequences. A Malaysian minister now says that Telegram is ready to fight piracy.

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I rather have free speech, if you don’t like Telegram then use something else.

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.ml user don’t be a fascist challenge.

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Free speech is not about being fascist 🙄

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Sure, but what you’re describing isn’t freedom of speech; freedom of speech is the prohibition against the government taking action for the contents of the opinions you express. It has nothing to do with what a non-government platform allows or disallows.

A platform that allows Nazis is a Nazi platform, plain and simple.

I realize you’re probably a dishonest pos, so this is for the benefit of whoever else reads it.

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Nazi bullshit isn’t free speech. That’s a trash argument. You need to look inside and find what part of you is broken if you think otherwise. Fuck Nazi anything. They don’t have a right to free speech. They lost that when they became Nazi’s.

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Mute or else, it’s that easy.

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7 points

You sound deranged, buddy

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10 points

Lol…is that some kind of threat?

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19 points

Tolerating intolerance leads to disappearance of tolerance.

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With open dialogue, education and respect you can have both.

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How does/can dialogue, education, and respect include intolerance? Isn’t intolerance inherently disrespectful, uneducated, and non-dialogue?

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It’s with polarization that things spin out of control. When the left thinks the right are nazi’s and the right think the left are commies, that’s when people become less critical of themselves and hatred spirals into a civil war, and the one that’s on top will do anything to prevent the ‘enemy’ taking over. Tolerating verbal intolerance is a good thing. That’s why your own statement is tolerated, it’s literally advocating intolerance (be it indirectly in favor of tolerance). I really don’t believe your statement is correct. Tolerance leads to tolerance. Intolerance leads to more intolerance. Not tolerating intolerance doesn’t make it disappear, it just makes people feel more strongly about it. When I cant think something or people look down on me for it, I am definitely gonna think it some more. Actual violence should of course not be tolerated. Ergo: is it ok to punch a nazi? No ofcourse not… unless the civil war has started yet and all tolerance is gone, but let’s not go there…

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I find your point interesting and I agree to some extent.

When I have people around me that express some type of radical view I usually casually mention a slight disagreement or let it slide because I know going into a debate with me won’t really change much.

However expressing opinions and feelings that are inherently based on hatred or lack of understanding, at least from what history has told, will lead to them being acted upon. Having resenting opinions about LGBT, for example, and grouping up with people with that mindset will probably spiral it into more lack of understanding and stronger opinions against it. Eventually leading to a growing and potentially spreading resentment against it. This extends to religion, skin colour, countries, mental diagnoses or anything else really.

What the “core” is so to speak is about things that people can’t inherently control, being born differently, being born in a certain place, etc.

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Just Google the paradox of tolerance. It’s really not as complicated as you’re making it out to be.

Also, punching Nazis is always morally correct. If you wouldn’t attack a nazi because they’re not currently threatening you specifically then you won’t develop any additional moral prerogative in time of civil war - you’ll join them, because they’re still not threatening you specifically, while fair and equal redistribution of resources will effect you. You don’t have any sort of morality or ideology underlying your objection, you just think extreme things are bad because you’re not given a choice.

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I’m disappointed so many people disagree with this. Yes, now they’re blocking opinions you don’t like, but if they choose to block opinions you agree with, I doubt they’d continue whistling the same tune.

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It seems this instance is becoming like second Reddit.

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First you say you’d rather have freedom of speech when arguing about keeping racial bullshit alive on the platform.

Then you say you’re against freedom of speech when the platform starts to look like Reddit with people calling out that racist troglodytes have no place in modern society.

Hmmm, it’s almost like you don’t want freedom of speech, you want pools to blast diarrhea into.

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There’s a big difference between blocking baseless, hate-fueled bullshit, and blocking actually credible information proving that people in power are encroaching on the rights and freedoms of others…

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Putting someone else’s life in danger (unprovoked) is not a free speech

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That’s different, free speech is not about putting people on danger.

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Ok, but it’s what telegram has. So would you rather keep your “free” speech and put others in danger, or lose it to keep others safe?

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Promoting nazism IS inherently putting people in danger, that IS their thing

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Funny how the .ml admins are so opposed to free speech on their own server, then.

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