The share of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents who believe that President Joe Biden’s 2020 election win was not legitimate has ticked back up, according to a new CNN poll fielded throughout July. All told, 69% of Republicans and Republican-leaners say Biden’s win was not legitimate, up from 63% earlier this year and through last fall, even as there is no evidence of election fraud that would have altered the outcome of the contest.

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They’re conditioned now to think any win by a member of the Democratic party is illegitimate. It’s going to be decades before we get back to anything resembling normal.

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A big “if” that is…

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The echo chamber effect isolates left and right from each other. When 95% of your peer group shares your political affiliation, it strains credibility that the other 5% could actually wield any political power.

This is a problem on both sides of the aisle. We’re all abandoning the center.

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Depends on where you define the center. If you draw it based on political ideology, the whole of American politics is right of center, and only the most radical fringe groups are on the left. Doesn’t seem particularly useful to draw the line there, but you do you, boo.

If you draw it democratically, putting an equal number of contemporary American voters on each side of the line, the center is becoming rather sparse as everyone gravitates toward the sides.

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This is a problem on both sides of the aisle

no, only republicans have chosen to divorce themselves from reality and create their own, including sorry attempts at “both sides” arguments

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Just in case anyone isn’t aware, any “both sides” argument is always a republican talking point. One side of the aisle didn’t try to overthrow the government and install a dictator, both sides are NOT the same.

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Where did I suggest both sides are the same?

Acknowledging that neither is willing to bend toward the other’s position means the two sides have radically different philosophies, not that they are “the same”.

The fact that both sides are talking past each other rather than actually engaging each other does not at all mean that both sides are the same. It merely means that neither is interested in compromise or cooperation with the other.

I’m pretty sure you actually agree with my point. Surely, you are not willing to compromise and cooperate with people who have tried to overthrow the government and install a dictator. Surely you aren’t arguing that these traitorous tyrants are somehow willing to cooperate and compromise either.

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