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This isn’t about a difference in political opinion it’s about encouraging not voting.

You can choose non-participation and you can fool yourself that it washes your hands but it does not stop the status quo, in fact it encourages it.

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I’ll vote but I’ll vote third party

You guys will get pissed at that too

Democrats haven’t done shit for decades now. Every single time they come in, it’s a little glitter on top of the steaming shit pile left by the republican counterpart, and then the same old stuff as them, just with different words. Doesn’t matter which party is in the White House, both of them are bought out completely by fossil fuels, tech, pharma, and all the other main industries. The Democrats are not a left wing party, they are a center right party that has been drifting ever more towards the right.

If their only running point is that they’re not as bad as the republicans, well honestly, they have shown that to not be true. The same things that would have happened under the republicans is happening under the Democrats. Joe Biden is the one calling people who protest against genocide anti semites. He’s the one okay with the national guard and heavily militarized police beating up and arresting American citizens because they protest another country having exorbitant power here.

How is that different from Trump saying the same thing when Democrats were upset about Russia? How are you all okay with another country blatantly directing America’s leaders? And buying our politics?

If you guys can only ever dream of two choices, when literally half the western governments have more than two choices and have to form coalitions, that’s your own failing. The two party system was always broken that’s why even George fucking Washington warned against it 250 odd years ago.

But if you want a third choice you’re gonna have to vote for one. And telling everyone they should stick their head in the sand and only vote for two pieces of a shit sandwich because it’s been like that for a while is cowardly. Dream of a better world, then make one. Don’t just dream of it and say ah well it’s out of reach.

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Voting third party in this election is useless. All you would be doing is throwing your vote away.

This isn’t a one issue election. It’s a crossroads.

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They say that about literally every single election

The standards have sunk so low it is staggering

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This isn’t about a difference in political opinion it’s about encouraging not voting.

So you claim, but every time someone questions Democrat doctrine, or dares suggest maybe they ought to change policy, you lot pop up screaming “But what about Trump!?!?” and equating any criticism of Biden to advocating non-voting, or better yet, claiming everything is some sort of false flag to try and prime the chances for Trump to win. Nobody can legitimately have a different opinion.

You have no real path to actually get the Democrats to change course, no reason for any of us to believe we won’t be in this exact same situation in another four years with you running around like chickens with your heads cut off, and anyone who dares say, “Well, gee, guys, maybe we should do something other than the same old garbage that hasn’t got anyone optimistic about a Democrat outside Obama in the last 30 years,” you have a dozen accusations to levy against them to dismiss any points they raise. But yeah, we’re all just supposed to believe that it’s going to be anything other than more of the same centrist Democrats proceeding to do fuck all of what them claim they will the second they hear they won another election.

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Of course they ought to change policy. But how stupid is your solution to this that you’d rather let something far worse take over? It’s just so obviously dumb that it had to have come from the disinformation campaign packaged in a smart sounding way because no sane leftist would settle on this conclusion on their own.

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“If you do the same thing we’ve asked you to for decades, we promise it’ll be different this time,” is a take so stupid, it must be some sort of disinformation campaign, because no sane Democrat would be stupid enough to think this would convince people. Continuing to run the same, tired plays over and over again and expecting that nobody will realize that they’re full of it is just asinine tactics on their part.

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I think voting third party is viable when it comes to local elections/electing Congress people and senators. When it comes to the president, it is much much less viable. If you want a third party president to be viable, you must first build up that third party’s power and at the same try to prevent a fascist takeover so that third party power buildup can be sustained. Building up the power of a third party takes decades of work. Further third party power can be amassed through implementation of ranked choice voting, which takes time to implement as you need to get multiple states to agree to it first.

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