Researchers jailbreak a Tesla to get free in-car feature upgrades::A group of researchers found a way to hack a Tesla’s hardware with the goal of getting free in-car upgrades, such as heated rear seats.

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Same reason it’s legal for HP to brick your printer if you use third party ink. You violated their shitty TOS that none of us read because it’s 80 pages of legalese, but you agreed to it.

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Lets be fair

TOSs you need two lawyers and an ai chatbot to explain to you, shouldnt be legal vs regular citizens.

They cannot expect anyone to read all TOS they get thrown in their face throughout a lifetime. Let alone understand them. Its often not written super clearly and not all users can even read the language very well to begin with.

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I don’t disagree. I’m just saying how things are, not how they should be.

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I really wonder if there’s a way to use LLMs just to point out every concerning thing in a EULA/TOS

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Probably not ChatGPT because who knows what was in its EULA and we couldn’t use it to summarize it before agreeing to it.

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Bet you could but not sure what that would get you. So you don’t click agree to it. Now what?

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You can give this a try

https://www.tosdr.org/

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To what end? Probably every eula/tos you click through has concerning shit that is against your best interest. Either you use the product or you don’t.

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That’s why EULAs or other contracts are not necessarily legally binding if they contain specific parts that could be considered “unfair”; at least in the European Union.

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Yeah but I want to know just how fucked I am when I sign it

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Lobbying.

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hmmm yes I suppose that’s true. Okay so let me rephrase: I’m amazed it’s legal for a car manufacturer to even HAVE a TOS like that when you purchase a car. It shouldn’t be legal to write language like “you are purchasing this but agreeing that you can’t use it” … wtf?

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Don’t like it? Don’t buy it. Simple.

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First they enshittified Tesla and I didn’t care cuz I didn’t buy Tesla

Then they enshittified GM and I didn’t care cuz I didn’t like GM

Then they enshittified Toyota and I didn’t care cuz I didn’t buy Toyota

Then they’d enshittified everything, and since they also cut all corporate taxes and subsidized the oil companies my town has no public transit and I walk by the side of the road.

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“Don’t like it? Move”

That’s the same dangerous logic. Heaven forbid people try to make things better.

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I agree that it’s wrong, but I don’t think, at least in the U.S., that there’s any law against it. Like I said, HP does the exact same thing with their printers. I certainly would like for it to be illegal.

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So I’ve been in discussions like this for equipment on trains. It functionally goes:

You paid for X. The hardware we plan to use for faster build supports X+Y. You can either:

  1. pay for Y
  2. have us artificially prevent Y
  3. wait until the hardware that just does X comes in

I actually agree with the options prevented above. I just think that, as the owner, you should still have the right to reverse item 2 if you can figure out how. Especially if it’s out of warranty.

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