lol we already have fascism. They’re crushing antiwar protests, the media is in lockstep, labor demonstrations have been broken and they’re pissing away the cost of healthcare, free college and any number of other benefits on supplying a genocide.
I’m never gonna vote for Biden again and if you don’t want to either, consider voting for the party for socialism and liberation.
You don’t have to support the genocide.
and remember the alternative to Biden is worse… so I think you are a plant.
Will you always pick the “better” of the two parties? If not, how bad does it need to get before you vote third party? I like to ask it this way: where’s your red line?
How cheap are you to get to toss out your vote so fascism can sweep up come November? Pretty fucking cheap by the looks of it.
The entire point of third parties in US presidential elections, right now, is to syphon votes away from the main parties. They are otherwise entirely useless.
They need more office down ballot…way down ballot…to start making any sort of progress towards the possibility of ever winning a presidential election.
It’s not about “sending a message”. Nobody is listening there. You want to send a message, put it in a letter or a picket sign. Not a ballot box.
Of course it is. The whole reason Trump won the first time around was because enough people wouldn’t hold their nose for Hillary in the right states.
Imagine the world if they did, with her choices for three justices (not to mention the 231 appointments in lower courts), and the handling of COVID.
Buttery males. 2024 is just a reboot of 2016.
No I’m not going to throw away my chance to reduce suffering on pitching a fit.
It’s not pitching a fit to recognize that both of the two major parties candidates are unacceptable.
There’s a big difference between pitching a fit and saying “genocide is my red line.”
What’s your red line? What would cause you to vote third party instead of Biden?
- A third party would need to have a feasible chance of winning even a single fucking state, and the literal only chance of that would be if every single Democrat and Republican spontaenously and simulteanously dropped dead right before voting day.
- The amount of harm caused by Biden would have to be equal to or greater than than the harm caused by Trump, which is demonstrably not the case.
We are in a winner takes all system, It has limitations, Its very stable with 1, primary party, its possible to have 2 primary parties, its while not impossible, very very hard to have more primary parties.
Sure its possible particularly in a state for a new party to replace an existing one… However most cases of this the new party becomes part of or replaces an existing parties leadership. However if you really want more parties we need something like instant runoff elections, Im very disappointed in how much push back on that has happened where its been attempted. (or a parliamentary system… but i dont see that fitting into the US system)
