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You think we’ve been using this last four years to organize? Bull. That’s exactly my problem with the Democrats, is that they have done nothing in the last four years to stop what’s going on. We just all collectively acted like there was no problem, Because we were tired from the previous four years. A bunch of ostriches with their heads in the sand.

You say you want an alternative to our current system, but explicitly there is no option for that alternative if every election becomes a damage control election. You are reinforcing that system by demanding that people vote for Democrats, without Democrats having to change their views to match the populace. How are we supposed to enact change if our voices do not matter to our own party? You know this, and you’re stuck in that cognitive dissonance. Which is exactly where the party wants you.

As for solutions, I can think of quite a few things that I was proposing at the time that they were relevant. For starters, we should have never appointed Merrick Garland. All of the progressives were screaming at you folk about this, and you didn’t listen and now there’s egg on your face. Sorry, but that’s how it typically goes.

Secondly, we should have impeached Donald Trump the night of the insurrection when Republicans didn’t know which way the political winds were headed. You had people like Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham ready to get off the Trump train until Fox News was able to successfully spin it after the months and months long investigation. There was no need for an investigation. You could have had a one sentence impeachment article referencing the insurrection.

But these are Democrats we’re talking about. They don’t actually do anything.

Correction : the investigation was a couple of weeks. In my defense time moves much slower during that crazy month. My point still stands that they should have done it on the spot instead of letting Fox News spin it.

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You think we’ve been using this last four years to organize? Bull.

Oh, great, so now you’re going to vote for fascism because YOU didn’t use the past four years wisely. Great. I share a polity with a bunch of fucking children.

Secondly, we should have impeached Donald Trump the night of the insurrection when Republicans didn’t know which way the political winds were headed. You had people like Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham ready to get off the Trump train until Fox News was able to successfully spin it after the months and months long investigation. There was no need for an investigation. You could have had a one sentence impeachment article referencing the insurrection.

They wouldn’t even vote for impeachment, genius.

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You are not engaging in good faith right now. I am not voting for Donald Trump. Hell, ironically, my vote doesn’t matter at all. I’m in a ruby red state, bless the stupid Electoral College.

You didn’t even listen to what I said. They didn’t vote for impeachment because we gave them time to see where the political winds were headed. Months and months of a needless investigation that allowed the right-wing spin machine to turn someone like Lindsey Graham into somebody who was furious into an ally.

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You are not engaging in good faith right now. I am not voting for Donald Trump.

There are two outcomes of this election. Trump, or Biden. If you sit with your thumb up your ass as an infant drowns in an ankle-deep pool in front of you, you are not ‘innocent’ because you ‘did nothing’, you’re guilty because of your inaction, or your pointless action, if you prefer.

They didn’t vote for impeachment because we gave them time to see where the political winds were headed. Months and months of a needless investigation that allowed the right-wing spin machine to turn someone like Lindsey Graham into somebody who was furious into an ally.

Do…

Do you not remember when the impeachment vote was held?

Please, tell me when the impeachment vote was held. In your own words.

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