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I still find it incredibly rich that Democrats never have to take any blame for their bad positions. It’s not even a considerable option that they actually capitulate to the voters.

You are literally victim blaming. How on earth can you act like they need progressives and then not throw them a bone at the same time?

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Because the November election is not the place for that. I’d absolutely love the Democrats to move further left. First step is to make sure the current Republican Party can never win again, then, it will either collapse, or move more center to gain back some voters. As the Republicans move left, it would allow a further move left for the Democrats.

The best place to move left is with local elections, not the general election when both party candidates are already selected.

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Every time progressives try to do anything, Democrats say that this is not the time and place for it seems like that goalpost keeps getting moved.

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So are you suggesting the November General Election is the time? This is what I don’t understand about these threads. They don’t seem based in reality at all. What do you think will happen if people either don’t vote, or protest vote a 3rd party candidate? Please play that scenario out for me with a Trump win and how that solves anything.

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No: Every single election where a more left-leaning choice is pitted against a less left-leaning choice is the place to do that. If enough people consistently vote for the more left-leaning choice of the two, politics is pushed to the left.

By not voting, you are saying that you don’t care which candidate wins. In this case, the choice is between a literal fascist and a more or less far-right (globally speaking) candidate. Of the two, one is clearly more left-leaning (less far-right) than the other. So you vote for that one. That’s how you make a difference.

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Always funny to watch people so eager to politically neuter themselves. But it’s natural selection I guess- people that can’t be politically pragmatic make themselves politically irrelevant. Thanks for the taxes though.

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What are you talking about? Voting for a person explicitly because the other sucks is politically neutering yourself. It shows that you’re incapable of demanding for more. Now your voice doesn’t matter at all to the party. Notice how they are actually more eager to woo conservatives than they are you.

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I totally support your effort to ‘demand more’ by not voting. Keep up the great work! And thanks again for the taxes!

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