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It was ultimately his responsibility because it was his production. It was not his fault for pulling the trigger, it was the unsafe working conditions on set.

If any of us died at work due to unsafe working conditions then our families would definitely want the employer held responsible to the full extent of the law. Baldwin may be a famous actor but in this situation he was an employer too, not just an actor.

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That seems to contradict the article:

Special prosecutor Kari T. Morissey argued that “the actor has responsibility for the firearms once it is in their hands.”

The prosecutor is explicitly arguing that he has responsibility because he was holding the gun.

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I will be interested to see the angle the prosecution takes. I think there’s a real sense of embarrassment from the authorities on this one, and they’re trying to make sure they don’t look like they’re sweeping it under the rug to mollify the Hollywood people, but it’s a case with pretty big holes. Since it’s “only” involuntary manslaughter, I wonder if the angle they’ll take is that there’s a legitimate question of fact that even an actor could see that the armorer was a disaffected nepobaby who was bad at her job, and the production wasa chaotic mess, and that all this raised the bar for how Baldwin should have proceeded.

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he did. You hold any weapon in your hand, and use it in an irresponsible manner, you’re responsible.

yes, even if an ‘expert’ tells you it’s safe. he had enough wherewithal to know it’s a weapon inherently designed to kill. and to be perfectly blunt, it wasn’t even necessary that he carry a real firearm with dummies. they weren’t filming. they were setting up shots, checking angles and such…

and he should have had enough professional experience to know, you don’t pass guns around like that on a set. it’s controlled by a single person whose responsible for it, and it’s either locked up, being held by that one person, or being actively used by the actor.

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The way it works on a movie set is that the weapons master is supposed to check to make sure the weapon is 100% safe if the trigger is pulled and then hands it to the actor. The actor has to be in the head space to do their role properly, which would not include worrying about whether or not the gun is loaded since, in their mind, it’s loaded. That’s exactly why the job of weapons master exists. In this case, it’s the weapons master who fucked up. Baldwin fucked up by creating unsafe workplace practices, not because he pulled the trigger.

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Worker go in without a mask and gets cancer: should have known 🤷‍♂️

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Fault is percentage based on the US. The employer and employer can be civilly liable for damages. But this is a criminal trial.

If this was a trucker who refused to check his blind spot routineoy before merging and killed someone the trucker would be held to account.

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It was not his fault for pulling the trigger

Yeah it was. He says he didn’t pull it, but there was nothing wrong with the gun that would cause it to go off any other way. He was pointing it at people. He pointed a real gun at people and he pulled the trigger. Him being told the gun wasn’t loaded is irrelevant. There are several levels of negligence at play and there’s no excuse for any of it.

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