Lemdro.id

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6 months ago

Why do you think that you’re not an outlier when it comes to recognizing, again, one of the most prestigious universities in the world which is responsible for dozens of Nobel prizes?

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Zaktor@sopuli.xyz

1 point

6 months ago

Again, answer my questions. I’ve humored you long enough for someone unwilling to address the text I’ve written.

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1 point

6 months ago

Okay, to answer your questions:

Ok, why do you think HR managers are the only people who matter for a prestigious university degree?

I don’t. I think most people have heard of La Sorbonne. You just hadn’t.

Or that some people also recognizing it would mean it was a functional replacement for somewhere nearly all people recognize?

I don’t. I think most people have heard of La Sorbonne. You just hadn’t.

Please apply that answer to all of your other questions too.

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Zaktor@sopuli.xyz

1 point

6 months ago

Ok, this is just disconnected from reality. Most people in the US haven’t heard of Caltech, let alone a foreign university. Maybe Oxford, but that’s not at all certain. The average person knows Harvard and MIT because they’re in movies, whatever big school is closest to them, and a some sports schools.

Sorbonne is #48 in the US News global rankings. Pretty good! But well behind the weakly known Caltech (#9) or the top ranked Harvard (#1). The next highest rated US school above Sorbonne is the University of Pittsburgh. No one would ever say “just swap your Harvard degree for Pitt, it’ll open similar doors”. And this is on a list that’s largely judged by people in academia who have a wide familiarity with schools. Ask a random American whether Utrecht University (#44) is a good school and they’ll have no idea. They’re unlikely to even known Utrecht is a city.

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6 months ago

If you want to show me actual evidence to support your claim that most Americans haven’t heard of it, go for it. Good luck.

Anyway, we’re not talking about the average person. We’re talking about the sort of person who hires Harvard graduates. If they don’t know about really good universities in other countries, they really suck at their job when they’re hiring people at the high end like that. So if you want to claim HR people who hire Harvard graduates suck at their jobs… well, good luck.

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Zaktor@sopuli.xyz

1 point

6 months ago

Holy fuck, no we’re not. This will be the third time the second line saying such explicitly has passed before your eyes. People exploit degrees for things other than getting hired.

And it’s not just hiring where prestige can be useful, it’s business pitches, op-eds, political speaking. These aren’t things universally judged by HR managers who, making the assumption they’re even good at their job, might recognize elite foreign institutions, they’re judged by everyday people who might not even be able to name the full top 10 US-based universities, but know the name “Harvard”.

I’m done. You’ve repeatedly shown yourself to be unwilling to actually engage in anything I’ve written and have some odd fantasy about the notoriously well-informed American public.

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6 months ago

Got it. You’re making the “HR people suck at their jobs” argument.

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