The data covers the work of organisations HazteOir and CitizenGO, comprising documents which date from 2001 to 2017 like spreadsheets of donors and members, strategy and planning documents, letters, financial charts and legal and training documents. HazteOir was first founded in 2001 in Spain to campaign for right wing values, in 2013 it founded CitizenGO to spread its work beyond Spanish speaking countries.

Here is the link: https://wikileaks.org/intolerancenetwork

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Because in most of the world conservative values have become “what’s best for me,” and progressive values have become “what’s best for us”

And that “they’re all the same” argument doesn’t really work well. Sure, at the base they’re the same because they preach values, but at least in the US only one side was trying real hard to undo medical protection for issues like abortion and banning books that they don’t want to have to explain to their kids.

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Because in most of the world conservative values have become “what’s best for me,” and progressive values have become “what’s best for us”

What’s best is subjective. Initiatives against coal, guns, religion, cars, etc… aren’t what’s best for Conservates.

Liberals asserting their values are what’s best for everyone doesn’t make it so.

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Is it subjective if data tends to say otherwise and it still gets ignored?

Also, I’m not saying liberal ideals are best for all, however they tend to take into consideration other groups that those rules would effect. And no, I’m not saying that’s true all the time either.

My point again is I’m only seeing one group actively fight against medical protections, banning books, and ignoring science in the name of corporate value.

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Is it subjective if data tends to say otherwise and it still gets ignored?

Yes. Because you can argue things like reduced guns will lead to reduced deaths, and therefore it’s an objective good, but that relies on neglecting things like cultural ties.

The stupid thing is the second you start talking about gun bans effecting Native hunting culture suddenly there’s respect and understanding.

Sorry I’m not really explaining myself well but I gotta get back to work.

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