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Democrats are becoming increasingly concerned about a possible drop in Black voter turnout for the 2024 presidential election, according to party insiders. The worries arise from a 10% decrease in Black voter turnout in the 2022 midterms compared to 2018, a more substantial decline than any other racial or ethnic group, as per a Washington Post analysis. The decline was particularly significant among younger and male Black voters in crucial states like Georgia, where Democrats aim to mobilize Black voter support for President Biden in 2024.

The Democratic party has acknowledged the need to bolster their outreach efforts to this demographic. W. Mondale Robinson, founder of the Black Male Voter Project, highlighted the need for Democrats to refocus their attention on Black male voters, who have shown lower levels of engagement. In response, Biden’s team has pledged to communicate more effectively about the benefits that the Black community has reaped under Biden’s administration, according to Cedric L. Richmond, a senior advisor at the Democratic National Committee.

However, Black voter advocates have identified deep-seated issues affecting Black voter turnout. Many Black men reportedly feel detached from the political process and uninspired by both parties’ policies. Terrance Woodbury, CEO of HIT Strategies, a polling firm, suggests that the Democratic party’s focus on countering Trump and Republican extremism doesn’t motivate younger Black men as much as arguments focused on policy benefits. Concerns are growing within the party that if they fail to address these issues, disenchanted Black voters might either abstain or, potentially, be swayed by Republican messaging on certain key issues.

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107 points

From a non-US standpoint this is rather easy:

You have 2 geriatric options. Option 1 would lead to a dictatorship. Option 2 would lead to the - non-ideal - status quo.

How the fuck do you even have to think about which option would be better???

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I’m not from the US either, but I’m pretty sure there’s a third choice - staying home.

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10 points

I was mostly referring to the (likely) candidates as options, but yes, sadly you are right. Doesnt help that by design it is more difficult to vote for certain groups than others. Still. If I had to take a day off and risk my job by doing so - It would be worth it to prevent a dictatorship!

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7 points

That’s a vote for Hitler V2

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-7 points

First of all, not voting is, by definition, not a vote for anyone or anything. Second, the right to vote always includes the right to not vote for any of the given choices.

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38 points

The Dems have ran non ideal status quo candidates for so long it becomes fatiguing so people stay home or write in Snoop Dogg.

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-5 points

Last non-ideal Dem for President was… Kerry?

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10 points

Clinton was definitely not ideal, lol. Just another corporate dem. I still voted for her though.

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16 points

While I totally understand the frustration - apathy cannot be a solution in this scenario!

You’d rather sit at home and watch your democracy go up in flames than just make an “x” on a piece of paper or a screen? Seriously, come on man…

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7 points

Democracy is going up in flames either way, the question is whether we want it fast or slow. The only way to stop it is for the Dems to put up decent candidates who want to stop the slide, and thus far, they’ve declined to do so. So while yes, we should keep voting blue to slow the slide, we shouldn’t be stupid enough to believe that doing so is enough to stop it.

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While I totally understand the frustration - apathy cannot be a solution in this scenario!

Then quit accepting it from those we elect.

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8 points

Nothing in the comment to which you replied suggests that the commenter has given up. They merely describe what causes people to do so. At least as I read it.

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0 points

Don’t be an idiot. It’s been going on for so long, and the two party FPTP system is so broken, that this disgruntlement is justified. If neither party changes, and if voting for the less bad choice is construed as endorsement, them what other choice does a conscientious voter have?

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You don’t. You don’t understand the frustration. You’re not part of this you’re just a casual observer with an opinion formed from the outside.

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27 points

non-ideal over violent civil war

this is not a tough decision, my friend

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If an actual fascist dictatorship were a real threat the democratic party would be totally impotent against it.

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3 points

Yeah this is why I’m glad things aren’t looking great for Desantis lately.

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An actual fascist dictatorship IS the real threat. What do you think trump will do if he wins?

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-16 points

War with China- the same thing that will happen if Biden wins.

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3 points

Yep. These “I just won’t vote” comments are naive.

We have lost the Supreme Court to Republicans and they put in three hack judges. We have lost the House. We barely have a 50/50, and some paid off Dems like Tricia Cotham who was a GOP plant switched sides. Steve Bannon is running chaos agent RFK Jr. to try to screw up Dem votes. We cannot pass any bills, really. We are at risk of Trump or a Hitler clone like Desantis running. We are at high risk of fascism right now.

The LAST thing we need right now is to whine about current candidate availability. We are not in a position to do so. To not vote, or even vote third party right now in our tenuous position is suicide. We can fix these things later. But not now. The goal right now is to get in enough Democrats to repair what Trump did. Then prevent it from happening again. And it takes time.

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Because the dictatorship is a minor inconvenient side effect of their team winning.

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This is exactly it.

Also:

he’s not as bad as the Democrats say, they are just mad because their team lost"

…followed by endless rationalization and moving goalposts

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3 points

The dictatorship is the end goal.

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But if you don’t consider Trump the absolute threat that he is, you just stay home. When I thought there was no way he’d win (2016) I didn’t vote for Hilary because I hate her. I voted for Biden because the threat had become real.

Dems are correctly assessing that there are still people who see Trump as a clown show rather than a future dictator.

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3 points

Easy is subjective. The choice is obvious but having to vote for someone you know doesn’t represent most of us isn’t easy. It’s a hard thing that we have to do. Nobody is thinking about what option to vote for here. We’re grieving the decision that’s already been made for us because there’s no acceptable alternative. But thanks for your contributions. It’s always so very helpful when people that don’t even live our lives roll up to state the obvious.

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I just don’t bother voting. We need a large majority of eligible voters, those who actually don’t believe in the system, to stop showing up. When the tide goes out, we can all see who’s swimming naked.

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6 points

This is the dumbest thing I’ve read in this thread. I can’t imagine you’re anything but a troll trying to get people not to vote.

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0 points

Neither party represents me

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Because the status quo at this point will also kill millions, just slower.

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10 points

Exactly. I live in America and I can’t believe the stupidity of some of these comments like “well because they’re running Joe Biden I won’t vote waaaah!” Ok, then enjoy your dictatorship? It culturally is the worst thing I hate about being here.

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