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37 points

It’s not like Trump is going to prison for this. He’s old, has no record, and did serve as president, regardless of how people feel about it. Plus, he’s going to appeal, which means this thing will drag on long enough to still not matter, sadly.

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In the state of New York, you serve time while awaiting appeal. If the judge opts to remand him to house arrest, which I think is the most likely outcome, his ass is staying put until his next court date.

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That’s incorrect. It’s at the discretion of the judge to mandate imprisonment, place the felon on home confinement, subject to a curfew, or allow posting bail while awaiting appeal in NY.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-is-convicted-felon-now-what-2024-05-30/

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NYS BAR Association: https://nysba.org/NYSBA/Publications/LegalEASE Pamphlet Series/PUBS_LegalEase_YourRIghtsToAppealInCriminalCase_final.pdf

Bear in mind that the sentence imposed by the lower court will go into effect while the appeal is being considered by the appellate court unless the trial judge or appellate court stays the sentence or a part of it (orders that it not go into effect). The order staying the judgment of conviction and sentence may include a requirement to post bail.

The “unless” (emphasis mine) is the operative word. The trial judge can choose to exercise discretion, but is under no requirement to specify any changes upon receiving an appeal.

That is to say, the default procedure is, as I said above, the convicted party serves their sentence during the time the appeal is being processed and considered.

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That’s assuming they actually sentence him to any kind of confinement and not just a really big fine (that he can’t and won’t pay anyway).

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I mean, that judge is NOT happy with Trump, and has already lamented the fact that fines mean nothing to him.

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While that may mean there is a technical component to it, that’s not what people mean when they’re thinking about it. Being put into a prison is what people are referring to and that isn’t likely to happen.

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12 points

But we can still hope

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11 points

He has a record. He also was convicted of rape sexual assault and also defaming said woman twice.

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No, he had a sexual abuse charge, not rape. None of the above was a criminal charge, only civil.

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“Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E Jean Carroll.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

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Yes but he also disrespected the court (falling to sleep and badmouthing people on social media), shows no remorse (claiming innocence despite a unanimous jury) had 34 charges against him (all unanimous) and did it to trick his way into the highest position in office. Which should all be considered when sentencing.

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One would hope.

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I’d agree with you if he had up to maybe 15-20 felonies. He got 34. What grounds do you think he can appeal on?

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You’re operating on a fallacy. You can only be tried and convicted once per crime. Every single one is an opportunity for an appeal. Having more just increases the likelihood that there will be at least some possible appeal. The easiest route will probably be an appeal against whatever the sentence itself is once that’s issued, especially if he’s sentenced to serve time. But it doesn’t matter; his lawyers will simply look for every single possible way to delay the process, as they have continuously done.

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Again, he has to have a reason for appeal, what reason do you think he has to appeal? He’s going to appeal but it’s going to get thrown out immediately. He’s in deep shit and he knows it. The only thing that could save him is if he wins the election, which he’s not going to.

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No record might matter if it wasn’t for 34 counts. If it was one or two non-violent felonies that could be made whole, could be weekends or lots of community service. But 34? No one gets to use the “I was a good little boy” defense on that.

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Wanna bet?

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Nah. Not for Trump. Unless one of the counts was for having a dime bag.

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