It looks like the internet archive is needed assistance, I just heard about this today and figured lemmy could help spread this message around

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33 points

Lol, a petition won’t stop this unless it’s a petition to bribe the judge. The US is owned by corporations.

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31 points

Sure, but it is still better than doing nothing.

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It feels better than doing nothing.
If you can convince yourself you’re not doing nothing.
I’ve never been that good a liar.

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26 points

Large petitions also serve as a way of getting the word out.

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15 points

I don’t know.

I still think there’s at least some value, even if the only thing it accomplishes is getting people to talk about it. Many people have never even heard of The Internet Archive.

Either way, there isn’t really a reason not to.

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Only things that are effective are better than doing nothing. Doing ineffective things only gives a false sense of accomplishment and thus reduces the incentive to try harder to be effective, which means they’re actually worse than doing nothing.

Online petitions, “free speech zones,” and other easily-ignorable things are like honeypots for activism, designed to neuter it.

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Sure, but “effectiveness” is usually not a binary and is often difficult to measure. Small, but persistent changes should still add up. Eventually.

So long as people recognize that these things are in fact quite toothless, I’m not sure they are entirely detrimental. There’s no reason this couldn’t be used as a starting point for more effective action, now that signatories are in greater contact with the campaign.

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It’s not even a question of being “owned by corporations”. Judges don’t care about petitions. They’re not politicians, their job is to adjudicate the law.

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In theory. In the US, at least (I don’t know about other countries), some judge positions are voted in, In that sense, they most certainly are politicians.

On top of that, HAVE YOU SEEN OUR SUPREME COURT. THAT SHIT’S THE HALLMARK CHANNEL OF “OWNED BY OTHER ENTITIES”, be it actual politicians (Trump) or CEOs (also Trump), many of whom ARE both executives and politicans (again, not only Trump, but also a number of other reps & senators).

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7 points

C’mon it’s at least worth a shot. To me at least.

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4 points

With the current judges we could probably buy one fairly cheap. Crowd source lobbying I guess

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