I’m helping a family member build a pc. He wanted to use Windows because “Linux can’t play games” despite me having a perfectly good gaming laptop running Linux that runs all my games, even graphically intensive ones.

2 days later, no game has been played yet. We can’t even get steam to start. I even installed Arch on a sata ssd I donated just to verify the pc parts actually work (took less than an hour). It took 1 and a half days to even get the Windows 11 installer to get past like the 3rd screen.

Fucking fuck. Dealing with all this fucking bullshit is far worse than not being able to play a few trashy anticheat pay 2 win games. The anti Linux circlejerk is real.

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ROFL windows is the easiest thing ever to install. Same with steam.

Sounds like either you’re terrible with computers or you have some serious hardware issues.

Blaming it solely on windows is a joke.

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Have you actually installed Windows in the last decade? I mean from scratch, mind you.

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It takes like 15 minutes to go from bare metal to login. I built my own PC in March and installed Windows from scratch from a USB drive.

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It was a few clicks and leaving my laptop AFK to install. The only semi inconvenient part was finding a way around not using a Microsoft account. Other than that, it’s about as brainless of an installer as it gets. My dog could do it with direction from me.

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Yes, it’s part of my job, it’s super easy, barely an inconvenience.

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Wow wow wow wow

Wow

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@winterayars @Coreidan yep did it the other day just spam no and your done in 10 mins. obvs Linux is easier than that these days but op is overreacting or stupid

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Yes, regularly.

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Yes, multiple times. It usually go this way:

  • the installer starts
  • I click on next a few times
  • it asks the key
  • next
  • next
  • nextnextnextnext
  • the desktop shows up about 20-30 mins later

It’s literally a nightmare.

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Not op. I installed windows 10 on my custom built desktop and my kids custom built desktop, on VM, etc. Have not had a problem and it was pretty simple overall. I’m sure some folks do have issues, though. Shit happens. Is windows 11 shittier for install? I’ve never had the desire to try :)

I’ve also installed various Linux distros on the above and a few other computers (Mint, Nobara, Fedora). Aside from Mint not working with my AMD RX 6600, no problems there either, really. And these distros installed easily.

Again, ymmv. I knew Mint would probably fail because the 5.19 kernel does not seem to like my GPU. That’s why I switched to Nobara in the first place (iirc the 6.x kernel wasn’t available at the time)

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Sounds like you have never installed linux

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I have installed many Linux distributions. What is your point?

If you’re trying to convince me that windows is more complicated to install then it’s pretty clear you’ve never installed windows.

At this point in the game neither Linux or windows requires more then a few mouse clicks to install their OS.

If you’re having trouble with either then you’re doing something very very wrong or using wrong/bad hardware.

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Well… Not Arch

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@Coreidan @PeterPoopshit ah, can you install windows without a microsoft-cloud account nowadays ? Please tell me how.

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When it asks you for an email use “no@email.com” and use a random string of characters for the password. Congrats, you can now use a local account on setup.

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Or use rufus to create the USB installer, and it will ask if you want to create a local account, and some other things to make installation even easier than it already is.

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It’s kinda funny how many people have no problem at all with a cloud account on their phone but get a mild stroke when Windows asks them to create a Microsoft account.

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Yes, I’ve set up several work computers without internet. You can make a local account on set-up.

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Don’t give it internet access during setup.

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