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Is killing Nazis authoritarian? If so is every “authoritarian” measure equal?

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A government ordering the killing of any group (political, ethnic, etc) abandoning due process for the individuals is authoritarian.

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That doesn’t answer the question though. If a government ordered the killing of Nazis that would be very different than a government enforcing the eviction of someone displaying a flag in solidarity with people being genocided by Nazis.

You do realize how those two things are different right?

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That doesn’t answer the question though.

Yes it absolutely does. Your question was “Is killing Nazis authoritarian?”

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Those aren’t mutually exclusive to define authoritarianism. I wouldn’t expect someone from hexbear to come with a good faith debate though.

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This is a really weird interpretation of authoritarianism… authoritarian regimes often enforce their authority through ‘due’ process.

I think the point op is making is that liberal democracies defer authority to capital and enforces it on their behalf. There’s a temptation to consider liberalism to be less authoritarian because of this deferral but it’s mostly just a slight-of-hand

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Well said.

Another very illustrative example of this kind of deferral and obfuscation played by liberal democracies with their use of authoritarianism is the continued use of literal slave labor specifically in the US, which is even enshrined in the constitution. The sleight-of-hand (sleight-of-tongue?) comes from shifting the term slavery into euphemisms for prison labor. A slave population of “prisoners,” the vast majority of whom are People of Color, mostly black people, as is the slavery tradition, who are actually pipelined from their schools to prison, and criminalized for engaging in the only means they have of economic independence. The authoritarian slave drivers will tell the general populace they are “bad people, felons” and deserve to be sequestered away from society to live solitary lives doing hard labor for no pay (2 cents an hour doesn’t count as pay.)

There is nothing more “authoritarian” than having actual slaves, which is the major reason the prison-industrial complex exists in the US and has more prisoners (read: slaves) than any other country in the world both in absolute numbers and per capita by a ridiculously large margin. That is capitalist-style authoritarianism.

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The Soviets killed Nazis. They were simultaneously one of the most brutal regimes in history, especially under the leader (Stalin) that had the Nazis killed

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Calling the Soviets, the people who liberated the concentration camps and lifted hundreds of millions of people out of poverty one of the “most brutal regimes in history” is literally Nazi propaganda. Stop repeating Nazi propaganda.

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