For those who are wondering, yes, Wine is malware compatible so be careful about the EXEs you run!

https://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#Is_Wine_malware-compatible.3F

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46 points

You really don’t think Linux has viruses? I’m confused by this post. Is it an excuse to shit on wine and windows?

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49 points

They’re super rare. I’ve not gotten one once in decades, whereas I’ve encountered countless viruses on Windows. Linux is more secure, but also it’s just a smaller target. Best way to avoid viruses is to use an OS nobody else wants to use *taps head

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23 points

I think you have a false sense of security with regards to Linux vulnerabilities and exploitations. There are dozen of known exploits throughout the Linux ecosystem that are publicly disclosed frequently.

What makes you think Linux is more secure than windows? I’m not trying to start an argument here I’m just curious.

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12 points

I find the Linux ecosystem has far better updating mechanisms than Windows and it doesn’t have as much backwards compatibility cruft as Windows. That and the open source nature I think is better at having exploits uncovered. I’m not saying Linux is perfectly secure, but that it’s more secure than Windows. But I think the biggest reason it’s less likely to get viruses is just that it’s a smaller target and that hackers aren’t spending as much time trying to attack it, plus the users are more tech savvy meaning any attacks will be less lucrative.

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9 points

Not sure what their answer is but not delaying security fixes until some fixed monthly date would be my answer.

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3 points

GNU/Linux is Libre Software, so that already makes it more secure, because anyone can actually verify what it does and modify it if needed. This means that users are really in control of what the operating system does. It’s difficult to verify what Windows does, but we know that it contains spyware, which isn’t easy to remove.

Installing software from a repository is also safer than downloading it from random websites.

When some library like OpenSSL has a vulnerability, you will get a new version with system updates and all programs will start using that patched version. On Windows usually each program has to have its own update mechanism or it will be stuck with old libraries.

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3 points

There’s a difference between exploits and malicious software (even though malicious software often makes use of exploits, it is different). I am willing to bet there is way way more malicious software written for Windows than Linux, simply because there’s way more Windows users than Linux users and there’s way more Windows software than Linux software.

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20 points

To be fair, I haven’t gotten a windows virus in at least 25 years either…

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10 points

Getting a virus takes real effort. I feel like the whole virus debate is just 2000s hangover, and people never update their shit talking points.

What is actually a threat are scams. Seniors being called, lied to and forced to compromise themselves. Those are the real viruses of 2023. And obviously 99% of seniors are on Windows.

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1 point

yeah when you use your brain you don’t get viruses it better than any anti virus software

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11 points

So the most secure possible option is TempleOS? Suck it, Apple!

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4 points

OS/2 !!!

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1 point

Unix for Lyfe

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8 points

You had the perfect opportunity to mention you use arch and wasted it!

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4 points

As an arch user myself, I almost tripped over myself running to leave this comment. I do use arch btw.

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2 points

lmao

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1 point

I use Kubuntu, BTW.

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5 points

Getting tired of this smaller target narrative. On desktop, maybe. We don’t know for sure since most Linux doesn’t carry telemetry and one ISO download doesn’t mean one install.

Also, Linux runs some insanely high percentage of the Internet (server, VM, container), IOT and mobile. For every individual who might own a hand full of computers there are 10’s, or perhaps hundreds, of Linux servers out there doing tasks for them. Virus and malware don’t only target desktops. There’s literally no larger target.

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I think when people say it is a smaller target for virii, they are talking about an actual virus such as ransomware, crypto miner, adware, trojans, etc. I have zero doubt these types of virii are more targeted on Windows platforms. Linux servers on the other hand are indeed going to be the largest target for exploits. The primary mechanism by which a Linux server is compromised is going to be via an exploit, not an actual virus. That’s not to say they don’t exist. I administer hundreds of Linux servers in several data centers. I don’t believe I’ve ever come across an actual virus in the last decade or so, but do deal with exploit and brute force attempts nonstop. Perhaps this is a matter of semantics. I don’t consider the tools and methods used to exploit systems as a virus.

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2 points

By God you’re right! Installs BeOS haiku

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7 points

There are very few Linux viruses. With its low market share, it’s not a juicy target, or at least not desktop users.

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12 points

Yeah that kinda thinking is really not useful. Linux is a very very juicy target these days due to your thinking. Desktop Linux installations are riddled with poor security settings and many server features enabled by default. IOT devices and self spun servers are regularly deployed unsecured as well.

https://linuxsecurity.com/features/must-read-articles/linux-malware-the-truth-about-this-growing-threat-updated

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Yeah, even if it IS true that it’s not juicy right now, doesn’t that mentality run directly contradictory to the desire for linux to become more popular? We’re trying to increase market share, so the “not a juicy target” idea is a very wreckless way of thinking.

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6 points

I disagree. Linux is run on a large number of servers. It may be a less tempting target for Trojan style malware, but exploits and vulnerabilities for Linux are very valuable since you can gain access to large amounts of valuable data.

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I use Arch btw


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