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An idling gas engine may be annoyingly loud, but that’s the price you pay for having WAY less torque available at a standstill.

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Here in middle eu they are twice as expensive. Maybe it got a little better to like 1.75 now? Still I would have to be crazy to spend more than necessary on a car and watch it’s value plummet and repair cost suck my entertainment money. But also no way to charge them without living countryside or arrive comfortably at the far destination without long stops.

A car is a necessary tool to get from a to b. Whatever does its job the best at the moment. I despise car owners treating them as status symbols.

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You’re making this up.

The average car in Germany costs above 40k€, that’s very similar to what an EV such as the BYD Dolphin can cost (from 35k€ upwards).

You don’t need to convince me that cars suck, I don’t own one as a matter of principle, but there’s no point in lying about the price of things

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Eee 40k euros? That’s what I am talking about I buy cars for 20k-25k€ maximum after conversion to local currency

You don’t even drive one so how can you have valuable opinion on this? I drive one and analyse which one is the most efficient purchase and you only deal in theoretical armchair expertise

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You buy much cheaper cars than the average German then. Good for you to unironically know better than the average German and understand that beyond the 20-25k mark, you’re paying for stupid stuff and branding.

I can analyse this because I can compare studies and averages, my whole point was “no, electric cars aren’t even that expensive anymore”, not “cars are good and electric cars are always better and everyone should get one”.

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