Kyle Rittenhouse’s sister Faith is seeking $3,000 on a crowdfunding website in a bid to prevent the eviction of herself and her mother Wendy from their home, citing her “brother’s unwillingness to provide or contribute to our family.”

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Huh. Have any of them considered a job? If the mom was capable of driving her child to another state to murder some people, I bet she could drive for uber or something. Or be a getaway driver for other criminals, idk.

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There’s a certain type of person who thinks work is beneath them. That’s who the Rittenhouse family is.

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…what? What are you basing this on?

When the children were small, Wendy and Mike worked various jobs, including machine operator, housekeeper, and cashier.

Wendy had become a certified nursing assistant, but she continued to struggle financially. The family was repeatedly evicted.

In 2018, shortly after another eviction, Wendy filed for bankruptcy. She developed a gastrointestinal bleed that required hospitalization, and Faith was also hospitalized, after an attempted overdose involving over-the-counter painkillers

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/05/kyle-rittenhouse-american-vigilante

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92 points

Gotta love a conservative family that votes to undermine all the social services they’d need in situations like this. But they seem to be able to afford guns…

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A CNA does not earn money, it’s pretty much a minimum wage job. This person did not have the necessary intelligence or drive to attain their bachelors and become a full nurse–it’s as simple as that.

My sister in law, bless her, is really one of the angriest persons you will ever meet. She hates everything out there and the world is bad, blah blah blah. I asked her why she became a phlebotomist. She told me she wanted to be a nurse but could not pass English 101. Seriously.

Kyle’s mom? She’s the same.

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According to the article his sister has been hospitalized and both her and their mother have a hard time getting work because of being associated with Kyle Rittenhouse. BTW the mother did not drive him that’s a fallacy

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Ok then I retract the part about driving. But I have a hard time feeling sympathy for her being unable to get a job. She’s repeatedly defended him and said she stands by him, and she allowed her 17 year old to buy a gun he couldn’t legally have and to drive without a license. Being associated with him is her doing. I have a family member who was a teenage white supremacist piece of shit (who was thankfully stopped by the FBI before he killed anyone), and you can bet nobody thinks I’m associated with him because I make it very clear where I stand. If I said he was a good person and I’ll always support him, I wouldn’t be shocked if employers said nah.

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Sure, but she’s also his mother, not a random family member. I’m not going to fault a mother for standing by their child, no matter what he did.

She didn’t let him buy anything, but she couldn’t make him get rid of it because it wasn’t in her house. It was locked up at a friend’s house in a different town.

She was also ill, poor, dyslexic, and a single parent dealing with a difficult child. She doesn’t seem to have much in her life but her children, I’m not going to condemn her for not banishing him from her life. It’s not an easy thing for a mother to do.

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Yeah absolutely fuck Kyle Rittenhouse but Kyle lied to his mom that night about what he was up to, and the mom clearly had no intention of being a willing accomplice to murder.

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Nah but she was totally down for taking him drinking with the Proud Boys.

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Parents are responsible for the actions of their children. She’s the reason he owned the gun.

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Fallacy is a fault in logic, not a falsehood.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc (after it therefore because of it) is a fallacy. Or an appeal to authority is a fallacy.

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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fallacy

a false or mistaken idea

You’re thinking specifically of logical fallacies.

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26 points

Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought Kyle lied to her about everything he was doing that night.

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He did. The gun was never in her home, she couldn’t do anything about it. It was locked up at his friend’s house because his mother wouldn’t have permitted him to have it.

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Yeah, but she’s related to him and loves him because he is her son, and we hate him, so obviously she should suffer too. Justice and empathy? Fuck that. We’re outraged and out for some suffering.

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You are spreading misinformation: https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-255510715179

The spreading of that, along with medical issues, is why they are having troubles.

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Did you read the rest of the thread? I already acknowledged that I was wrong about that part, but they’re saying they can’t get work because of him while still refusing to condemn him. The GoFundMe says he was “involved in a tragic shooting incident,” which is a pretty weasely way to say he killed people.

I also question that it really has anything to do with him. He’s certainly not having any issues making money, and there are a concerning number of people who consider him a hero, or at the very least aren’t bothered by what he did (see the comments on this post for a whole lot of evidence). Surely some of them are hiring.

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So, here’s the thing.

He shouldn’t have gone there. Being there, being armed, there to protect property, was taken to be provocative by the people that were protesting cops shooting an unarmed man.

But the narrative that we got in the news wasn’t how things actually went down. The first person confronted him and tried to grab his rifle when he wasn’t threatening anyone. The second person that was shot had just chased Rittenhouse down and struck him with a skateboard. The third person was pointing a pistol at Rittenhouse when he was shot in the arm. Source.

Given that he was not directly threatening anyone there, it was a clear-cut case of self-defense. Yeah, I don’t like it that a shitty person walks away, but he walked because he wasn’t guilty of a crime in defending himself. Is he still a right-wing shitstain that’s supposedly too dumb to get into the military? Yeah. But self-defense is a right for everyone.

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If Kyle has money (he does, from dumbass rubes), he should help his family. Fuck this shitty little selfish murderer.

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She didn’t drive him there. It’s been factually proven. Dudes a fucking murderer for sure, but his mom didn’t drive him to kill people. He did that shit on his own.

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If the mom was capable of driving her child to another state

She didn’t do that.

It’s really sad how many people are still so completely ignorant of even the simplest facts of that case. Whatever your ideology declared was the truth, you just swallowed, facts and truth be damned.

Pitiful.

P.S. Self-defense isn’t murder.

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P.S. Self-defense isn’t murder.

What Kyle did wasn’t self defense. I don’t give a damn what the court said, he went looking for trouble with a gun in his hand.

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If a black guy knowingly strolled through a KKK meeting, without saying or doing anything other than walking, and defended himself if one of them attacked him, would you argue he gave up the right to defend himself?

That’s not how it works, goofball.

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Putting yourself in harms way hardly justifies “self defense”.

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If a black guy knowingly strolled through a KKK meeting, without saying or doing anything other than walking, and defended himself if one of them attacked him, would you argue he gave up the right to defend himself?

That’s not how it works, goofball.

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It’s amazing how you can convince some people that you aren’t responsible for your actions when you totally were.

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He showed up to a riot with a gun, he knew what was going to happen. He put himself in a situation where deadly force would just be on be on the line of justifed.

Duty to retreat includes duty to not show up. It says so much that had the people he murdered not died and instead killed him they would be able to use the same defense he did. We are creating a last man standing justice system.

A provokes B. They fight. B is murdered. A claims self-defense

provokes B. They fight. A is murdered. B claims self-defense

What does it say that the argument works both ways? No other crime operates this way.

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It says so much that had the people he murdered not died and instead killed him they would be able to use the same defense he did.

LMAO no they wouldn’t! They chased Rittenhouse down as he fled! No jury on Earth would consider what they did self-defense, you’re completely out of your mind.

He showed up to a riot with a gun, he knew what was going to happen.

‘She was walking around with a skimpy outfit, she knew what was going to happen.’

Victim blaming. Wisconsin is an open carry state.

What does it say that the argument works both ways?

Loaded question; it DOESN’T work both ways, especially not when there is only one aggressor.

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