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I’m not minimizing their efforts. I’m pointing out that they are being annoying at best with no hope of affecting real change. It’s protesturbation. Tantrumism. They’re not terrorizing anyone with their stunts, they just being annoying.

I was protesting and active to save the St. Lawrence River when it was so polluted you couldn’t eat the fish. We did outreach and educatiom without annoying and endangering people. That was almost 50 years ago. I was very active in the straw bale building community for years helping other people to build straw bale buildings of all types. I trained the building officials to inspect straw bale buildings and intervened in disputes between people wanting to build a straw bale building and building officials with a 100% success rate.

Don’t lecture me about protest or change.

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