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Lightcone is so *outraged* at the Guardian article that they have started a prediction market about it(manifold.markets)

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WE DEMAND A CORRECTION TO uh various minor nitpicks

also we swear we totally didn’t get your email

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I am having a lot of fun on Manifold, but if the team insists on inviting eugenics speakers to conferences, its probably time for me to leave :-/

What exactly is your objection to people exercising their bodily autonomy to implement voluntary eugenics?

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The response from Habryka points out several factual inaccuracies, but I don’t see anything that directly refutes the core issue the article brings up. I recognize that engaging with the substance of the allegations might be awkward and difficult, not constituting “winning” in the rationalist sense.

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One problem with discussing this is that we here arguably have an asymmetric discourse situation.

"I’d like to tell you my thoughts on these various eugenicists, but they would be repulsive, fedposts, impossible to convey accurately in public discourse.

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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it’s amusing debate.

[Especially don’t debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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