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it’s all complete bullshit and you know it. there never has been a militia, it’s been a gaggle of fuckwits.

you people and your fantasy life make me sick. want to protect your country? enlist.

jfc goddamn gravy seal garbage

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I did enlist, 24 years ago. The proper epithet for me is “Chairborne Ranger”, not “Gravy Seal”.

I do agree with you: what the constitution refers to as the militia is not the various “gaggles of fuckwits” that regularly claim the title. Those nitwits calling themselves “militia” and dressing up in military surplus are some weird motherfuckers, but they are only “militia” in the same sense that that the local PTA, or an adult, recreational soccer league, or a knitting circle are “militia”. It is their status as members of the citizenry that makes them militia, not their participation in some sort of outdoor paramilitary adventure club.

As you have never learned what “militia” actually means, it is unsurprising that you have never learned the difference between “militia” and “military”.

The militia is charged with providing the security of a free state. The militia may be called forth to enforce law, suppress insurrection, and repel invasion. The military can only perform that last function.

Under the Posse Comitatus act, the military is expressly prohibited from enforcement of law and suppression of insurrection. Those activities may only be performed by the militia. The various people being paid to perform those activities have been “called forth” for that purpose, but one need not be formally “called forth” to act.

A woman walking across a parking lot, clutching the little can of pepper spray on her keychain, is not a “gaggle of fuckwits”.

Her presence deterring would-be criminals from attacking herself or anyone else in the area is an action envisioned by the Second Amendment. She is a militiaman. She is providing the security of a free state.

If the only weapon she chooses to carry is aerosolized taco sauce, she is also in dire need of better training. Congress has been negligent in its duty to effectively train her, or the rest of the general public who comprise the militia.

When we teach her how to use a gun, when to use a gun, when not to use a gun, we also provide that same lesson to the “gaggles of fuckwits” you are referring to, reducing how “fuckwit” they are. We also show her would-be attackers that she is a much harder target, not worth the risk.

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who are you that is so wise in the ways of the muppet militia?

You really are convinced this is a thing… your description of the ‘woman clutching a can’ as a militia makes the militia types I see all the funnier.

It’s all bullshit, neither she nor they are a militia in any logical sense, but I guess semantics are important to someone. Not me, your talents are wasted here.

pfft…

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It’s all bullshit, neither she nor they are a militia in any logical sense

I will be happy to consider your argument if and when you provide a definition of militia. As you have not provided any such definition, your argument above is meaningless.

You really are convinced this is a thing…

I have ample justification for that conviction. You can disagree, of course, but you have provided no logical basis for that disagreement. Again, you will need to provide and support a contrary definition of “militia” as it is used in Article I and 2A in order to rationally make your claims.

Based on your suggestion to enlist if I wanted to secure the nation, I suspect that your definition of “militia” will be more consistent with how the founding fathers used the terms “armies” and “Navy” than how they used “militia”.

I do think we can agree that the modern usage of “militia” to mean a “privately organized paramilitary group” is not at all what is meant by the second amendment. Those ass clowns are closer to “insurrectionists” than “militia”.

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