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Who du they think they are at war with?

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Capitalism

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Well then they lost that war a long time ago, as the long line of beach resorts across the Cuban coastline would show you.

Just because Americans can’t (easily) go to them, doesn’t mean privately-owned places like this don’t exist there:

Edit: Not one downvoter has explained how you can have privately and corporate-owned luxury resorts in a non-capitalist country. Can’t imagine why.

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Not one downvoter has explained how you can have privately and corporate-owned luxury resorts in a non-capitalist country. Can’t imagine why.

Oooh I love this false dichotomy because if every government that allows for any form of corporate owned private property to exist is capitalist then we can ascribe basically all evil to capitalism. Heck even the USSR was capitalist by your logic. Capitalists did the holodomor.

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Pretty easily, actually. Socialist states don’t exist in a vacuum, they need money for trade and resources like every one else. This reality is why all actual socialist ideologies are globalist in ambition btw. It doesn’t do your socialized industry any good if you have to buy your materials from a slave mine.

Ideology alone won’t buy Cuba medicine, or industrial tools. The fact is that the hemisphere they’re in is dominated by America and capitalism is something you either work around or starve under.

It’d be nice if Cuba could have afforded to build the resorts as worker co-ops or whatever but it’s an economic miracle that they exist as a nation at all with the eternal enmity of America trying to choke them to death for seventy years.

Only a delusional purist won’t acknowledge that it takes money and resources to build things, and all the foreign investors want a, you know, investment. Socialism is almost always considered a goal to transition to, and not an absolute requirement to be enacted day one.

Unless you want to live on an anarcho-primitavist farm somewhere anyways, and, honestly, they’re the ones most likely to survive this coming collapse so I guess they’ll either get the last laugh or die to the raiders like everyone else.

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Anyone else read this in Cherdenko’s voice lol?

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Well, they have been under US sanctions for a long time now. That’s what started the Pacific side of WWII.

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Mmm… sort of, but that telling of the situation also skips over a ton of context.

US sanctions against Imperial Japan were the proximate casus belli for the IJN attack Pearl Harbor and causing the US to actually join the war, but the sanctions were absolutely precipitated by other things Japan was doing in the years leading up to Pearl Harbor. The trade sanctions were enacted in more or less direct response to Imperial Japanese military adventurism and rather flagrant violations of the Washington Naval Treaty (though it is definitely fair to say that the force limitations imposed by the treaty were somewhat onerous and biased towards established powers, if considered in a geopolitical vacuum).

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The effects of the Communist revolution and the US response to it were so powerful that they went back in time by 20 years to start WW2?

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I’ve read this like five times and I have no idea what the heck you’re trying to get at.

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back in time by 20 years to start WW2

Boy here is posting from all the way back in 1959….

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Yes.

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