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I think I know marketing better than you, yes. Because that’s the industry that I work in. Marketing is all about persuasion, and bluntly, vegans like you do a really shitty job at marketing the idea of being vegan, and a shitty job of persuading people to be vegan. Shame and guilt don’t sell a product or an idea; they cause resentment.

You’re acting like the Westboro Baptist Church; you’re telling everyone that isn’t already in your group how awful they are, and using the most offensive terms you can come up with to do so. Just like the WBC, you’re absolutely convinced that your way is the only morally correct way. But you aren’t actually bringing people to your moral cause; you’re pushing them away. If you want to push people away so that you can feel self-righteous, then sure, keep doing what you’re doing.

…But if you want to persuade people, if you actually want people to change, then maybe look into what actually works.

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If you cared about helping veganism you would be vegan /shrug

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…And?

Do you want to make it important to me, if I’m not currently motivated to make it important to myself? If you do want to make it important to me, then how are you going to do it? Do you think that calling me the worst slurs that you can come up with is going to make me desire to change, or do you think that it’s going to make me angry and resentful towards you and the cause that you’re trying to champion? What do you think would be the most effective way to change my opinion of vaganism and of vegans, and make me desire to be a vegan?

Allow me to suggest a book that I think you might find to be useful. I’m going to assume that you have good intentions, and that you want to change the world in a way that you believe would be positive. That’s great! This might help you to find a more effective way to do it, so you can reach more people. Are you familiar with concepts of street epistemology? Many of the same concepts apply when you’re trying to persuade people.

If you don’t have any desire to make veganism important to other people, why not?

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omg you’re so fucking cringe. You’re so outraged that people you think are wrong and dumb do-gooders wasting time caring about mere things are being rude to you. When all you’ve done is come into a joke community and told them:

  • they’re wrong and dumb
  • you have no intention of ever aligning with them
  • you love killing animals and see no problem with it
  • they’re doing it wrong

that you’re writing pages about how wrong and dumb we are and don’t we know how to be less wrong and dumb?

“the worst slurs” just go fuck yourself with a rusty chainsaw you self important, society-ruining, self-centred, flint-hearted, black-souled, moron. The world does not cater to you, you are not important.

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