Lemdro.id

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4 months ago

That’s why you’re seeing a struggle within the party. It’s over, it’s been over, Biden just hasn’t accepted it yet.

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4 months ago

Maybe, I don’t know. I was just shooting down that standard DNC conspiracy theory nonsense. “Donors deciding” is just a step away from “Jews run the world”, with the George Soros conspiracy theories being the step in the middle.

Common sense dictates that money does not grant you mind control powers, however, just sway.

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bostonbananarama@lemmy.world

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1 point

4 months ago

This is an incredibly bad position. Saying that donors decide is nothing like saying “Jews run the world”. It’s not a conspiracy theory, it is a recognition that campaign funds are integral to a presidential election. If Biden can’t bring in money then his campaign will fold.

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https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presidential-race/small-donors

2 points

4 months ago

Biden already possesses a huge amount of donor money, and cannot run again in the future. Additionally, Biden gets almost half his money from small donors.

Influence gained by donation and control are not the same thing. Influence is real. Control is conspiracy theory bullshit.

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1 point

4 months ago

Yeah, it’s probably a conspiracy theory, and Citizens United is just the name of a polka band.

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2 points

4 months ago

I am not saying there is not a shitload of money in politics, it is true there is a ton of corporate money in our politics.

However, does the money grant control? Yes or no?

If I give you one billion dollars, you personally, could I then force you to do something you did not want to do? Murder a loved one perhaps? Or resign a presidency you’ve probably wanted your whole life?

Think about specifics, not vague bullshit. Money does not grant control, people retain their free will. It can only help convince. Lobby. Sway. Influence. Not control.

That’s the line between reality and conspiracy theory bullshit.

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It’s not a conspiracy theory.

1 point

4 months ago

Money doesn’t give you control over people, it influences decisions.

Why do we pay rent or mortgage? Do the landlords or banks control us, or influence us to pay? Why do cult leaders exists if adherents have “free will?” Are they controlled or manipulated?

If money didn’t influence and control politics, we would have gun regulations, healthcare, and climate reform.

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2 points

4 months ago

There you go, trying to say control and influence are the same thing again, when they are two separate words with distinct meanings.

Why do we really have the system we do? Because only a fraction of Americans are progressive, and far more prefer neo-liberalism for the illusion of freedom it gives. Most voters still consider “the economy” to be the most important issue to them, not any sort of progressive values.

Now, part of this is due to corporate-controlled narratives, but it’s still us exercising our free will. You do not have to pay your landlord, you could trek out into the Alaskan wilderness with a backpack and a tent if you really wanted. Nobody would show up with a gun to stop you.

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4 months ago

I’m probably wrong.

But there is one small group of people in America with the power to push Joe Biden out of the race. Who are they? The major donors to the Democratic Party.

They’re the ones Biden is angry with.

On Monday morning, Biden called into MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” and railed against the big-ticket donors who have been pushing him to withdraw.

“I’m getting so frustrated with the elites … the elites of the party,” he said on the air. “I don’t care what the millionaires think.”

Bingo. It was the first time any modern president has admitted that the elites of the party are the millionaires (and billionaires) who fund it, which gives them extraordinary political power — perhaps enough to push Biden out of the race.

In truth, the Democratic Party is little more than a national fundraising machine, as is the GOP.

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