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Just stop eating animals.

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I went meatless for a year and discovered that a lack of animal protein seems to exacerbate my PTSD symptoms. It did make me a lot more creative with veggies, though.

I definitely think there’s something to be said for the average meal contributing to the torture and slaughter of less than one animal per year versus contributing to hundreds.

What a horrible equation to have to consider. We really are, as a species, pretty monstrous. We normalize all the horrible shit people do to other living beings, to the environment, and to one another, but it’s seriously worrying behavior. If you don’t grant us the charity of looking from within a framework of the primacy of human needs, we really kinda make our fantasy monsters seem pretty laid back and non-violent by comparison.

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Is this an American, no animal welfare regulations environmental problem or a global one?

The strange thing here substitution wise is that IMO fake chicken is closer to real chicken in quality than fake beef is (that you can get as mince anyway). So it’s easier to substitute out the chicken than the beef.

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Globally, factory farming is dominant

It’s estimated that three-quarters – 74% – of land livestock are factory-farmed. That means that at any given time, around 23 billion animals are on these farms.

https://ourworldindata.org/how-many-animals-are-factory-farmed

You’ll find the environmental effects are more so categorical than because of how its produced

How do the distributions between plant-based and meat-based sources compare?

Plant-based protein sources – tofu, beans, peas and nuts – have the lowest carbon footprint. This is certainly true when you compare average emissions. But it’s still true when you compare the extremes: there’s not much overlap in emissions between the worst producers of plant proteins, and the best producers of meat and dairy.

https://ourworldindata.org/less-meat-or-sustainable-meat

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this uses poore nemecek 2018 and so it can be safely ignored

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Yeah, and wheat meat is not only cheap as hell, but gluten has like double the protein per gram than the dead animal flesh

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Beans and wheat are cheaper. Plant protein is like the cheapest thing you can buy.

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Lentil gang

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Yeah I definitely understand your perspective. I’m equal parts vegetarian, pescetarian, and vegan. But I’m not planning on skipping the fish just yet. It’s linked to my heritage.

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I’m equal parts vegetarian, pescetarian, and vegan

If you’re pescetarian then you are neither vegetarian nor vegan.

Vegetarian: eats plants, no meat of any kind.

Vegan: a vegetarian who also does not use any animal-derived products.

Pescetarian: eats fish but no other meat.

Vegetarian and pescetarian are mutually exclusive - you can’t be both.

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I’m mostly vegan

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