…And if it weren’t for that one joke by Hannibal, Bill Cosby would be very uncontroversial.
TracingWoodgrains was the person who wanted to create ‘themotte’ but leftwing right?
I genuinely don’t know, but I would believe it 100%. He seems like an arrdestiny-esque debate pervert in a reply-guy world. I think a “left wing” motte would suit him
Looked it up, and guess which sub he mods, could be that im thinking of a different guy who came into sneerclub to go ‘we should setup some better rational arguments against the Rationalists’, which is always quite the waste of time.
Edit: While looking into this, I see that TracingWood was on a podcast with Jesse Singal of all people. (Also talked about, why Keffals is bad or something (I didn’t listen, and I don’t know that much about what Keffals did or didnt do wrong, but eurgh at Singal talking about trans people, and wow the fans of this podcast are quite transphobic on reddit (protip, that you dislike a transperson (who might even done bad things) is no reason to mock all trans people you shits)))
look at this incredibly offended dork
Tracingwoodgrains is a reference to one of the sillier plot points in Card’s Ender series, right? Not very flattering imo.
oh god is it from that messed up OCD plot line in one of the bad ones – Xenocide? – which I’d forgotten about until just now? I guess if someone has an OCD diagnosis you could imagine taking that as a reclamation…
https://x.com/tracewoodgrains/status/1805683265480933638
He’s getting mad at scientific american again because they wrote a shit opinion peice but he should know the wiki guidelines are generally against citing opinion pieces as fact in your article
“Editorial commentary, analysis and opinion pieces, whether written by the editors of the publication (editorials) or outside authors (invited op-eds and letters to the editor from notable figures) are reliable primary sources for statements attributed to that editor or author, but are rarely reliable for statements of fact.”
https://x.com/tracewoodgrains/status/1803489864488460647
Same here, and I’m not even sure what was so bad about what was said because it was generally a tame article compared to many others.
Ben Stewart:
Manifest’s decisions are and have been bad not in terms of PR, but bad for its own epistemics, the forecasting community, EA, and basic human decency.
TW:
“Basic human decency”? Jeez, mate. I understand not wanting to engage with right-wingers personally, but treating it as a deep affront when others choose to do so is off-putting, to say the least.
Ben Stewart:
Yeah that was a bit strong, sorry late here.
Ben, honey. You do not have to apologize for referring to platforming Hanania as an affront to basic human decency. That TW is successful in shaming you for accurately identifying what happened here is no credit to your own ability to recognize the dangerous epistemic bubble in which you find yourself, or the cultlike social pressures that persuade you to distrust your own correct judgement – not because TW challenged your facts or your interpretation, but because he – gasp! – called it “off-putting.”
Not everyone’s going to like you. Not everyone’s going to agree with you. Social stigma is a good and correct tool in your toolbox when a member of your community says that cites-the-Turner-Diaries, enforced-sterilization, anti-“miscegenation”, “women’s liberation = the end of human civilization” Richard Hanania has something valuable to add.
