-8 points

Does the indoor lever (hidden) not work without the battery too?

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Ah yes… The typical downvotes for asking a question. Brilliant people we have here on lemmy, real stand up fellows.

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36 points

Yes, the interior manual release works without power, but the only person in the car was a toddler in a car seat and they were not able to open it themselves.

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24 points

Oh great! So someone couldn’t pull themselves up by their bootstraps and now they want a hand-out. I bet this “toddler” doesn’t even pay taxes.

/s

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16 points

Woke toddler was working for Big Baby to make Tesla look bad

Also, firefighters are just beefy sexy shills for the axe industry

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4 points

I though it was working against Big Baby *ahem*

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17 points

Not sure, but 20 month old toddler…

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24 points

The only sensible solution then is to ban toddlers from EVs. They’ll just have to walk.

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7 points

Just strap them into a stroller tethered to the back of the EV.

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6 points

The only sensible solution then is to ban toddlers from EVs. They’ll just have to walk.

Better give 'em guns too. With all that walking maybe they can stop a school shooting or two.

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50 points

The headline rambles a little bit, and by the time I got to “, died”, I thought the toddler was dead.

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6 points

That’s no accident.

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30 points

“Arizona toddler rescued…” I dont think a dead child can be rescued anymore

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4 points

It becomes a repatriation.

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14 points

The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

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7 points

Is it possible to learn this power? 🤔

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4 points

“Arizona toddler…died”

Brian Regan once equipped that he had taken a speed-reading course. “Since then, I can read 2000 words per minute. But…my comprehension’s plummeted.”

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13 points

it’s really smart to have non-mechanical mechanical parts for things like a door

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I was talking to a Tesla owner about this and they argued that if the window is electric then there’s no difference making the door electric. They couldn’t understand that the door itself can be operated independently of the rest of the vehicle.

Making windows electric causes a safety tradeoff. You get ease of operation while losing the ability to open the window in the event of an accident (where power cannot be supplied). However you can still unlock and open the door manually as an alternative escape option. This also applies in non-accident scenarios (dead battery).

Making doors electric is nothing more than a safety risk. From the inside you might have access to a manual release latch, but some doors require you to unscrew things first. Any emergency situation where you need to exit as soon as possible and the power is lost almost guarantees that you’ll be unable to safely escape.

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Nothing about it is hidden, obfuscated, or even in a weird spot. It’s literally right on the fucking door handle. There’s a lot of reasons to hate elon, and there’s a lot of reasons to hate tesla. Let’s stick to the legitimate ones instead of making shit up, it just weakens the arguments for the actual issues

Edit: turns out this is only in the M3, the Y, X, And CT are all designed by absolute idiots, and i joined them by not looking into all models

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Ok. So that’s the Model 3.

How about the Model Y?

Ok. Not all Model Ys have rear manual releases. I’ll assume the best and believe that only certain countries have this design.

How about the Model X?

So it’s behind the speaker grille. Uncertain if you need a screwdriver, but I’ll assume not. However it is hidden away from sight.

How about the Model S?

Oh, it’s under the carpet.

So yeah, turns out, I’m not making shit up, and there is indeed empirical evidence for it.

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You need to fully edit your comment and remove the part defending this nonsense.

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You mean, non-electrical… not non-mechanical.

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With sarcasm, one might say that it is desirable to have obviously undesirable thing. Your interpretation is one way, but I think they really meant “stupid” instead of “smart”.

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7 points

What is a non-mechanical mechanical part?

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6 points

It’s the opposite of a mechanical non-mechanical part geeze…

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19 points

A lot of people are giving Tesla shit here, but surely there should be regulations in place to ensure something like this isn’t allowed to be released for public use?

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Sure you’d think you wouldn’t need regulations that state that there should be a manual way to open your car door. Have we gotten that stupid? Why in god’s name would you not have that option? What happens if the battery dies and you can’t start the car? You can’t open the door to pop the hood to even jump it. With all the brilliant people that work at a company like Tesla and no one thought there should be a way to open the door from the outside if there’s no power?

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They do have a manual way of opening the car door if memory serves. It’s just in a hard to find place where a toddler wouldn’t think to look. Either way it’s a bad design. Nothing wrong with manual door handles imo.

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True, a toddler wouldn’t think to look directly on the door handle. Not really the type of place you’d expect to find a door release you know /s

There is a lot of reasons to hate elon, and there is a lot of reasons to hate tesla. But it really pisses me off when people just make these circle jerk hate threads based on something they didn’t even spend half a second Googling. It just makes all the legitimate issues easier for people to blow off

Edit: turns out this is only in the M3, the Y, X, And CT are all designed by absolute idiots, and i joined them by not looking into all models

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9 points

They have one on the inside but not the outside. That’s why the mom couldn’t get into the vehicle or the firefighters and they had to take an axe to the window. How are you supposed to pop the hood to jump start your car if the battery is dead and you can’t get in the car because the battery is dead? It’s just a stupid design to not have a manual override.

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2 points

The toddler was strapped into the seat at the time, so chances are that they would not be able to find and open the door that way anyhow.

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5 points

Have we gotten that stupid?

Something something “these regulations are written in blood” anecdote something something.

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Every eventuality can’t be covered by regulation. Sometimes you realise something can go disastrously wrong after someone is hurt. I wouldn’t be surprised if this never happened to other mechanical cars to never need regulation. Sometimes you need to wait for a stupid product to exist for someone to make a rule saying “stupid products shouldn’t exist”.

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7 points

You’d think.

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Yeah, Tesla is certainly not the first ones to have this design or issues with it:

Texas man, dog die after being trapped in Corvette

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Fun fact, a Tesla spokesperson describing the car’s features was talking about how they wanted something on the car that didn’t make it to final release and said “But sadly we couldn’t get that law changed”, which does… kind of imply that they lobbied the regulatory bodies into allowing this piece of shit to exist.

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You’d think so, but who do you think pays huge sums of money every year to be allowed to sell death traps to the public?

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36 points

Why not just open the door with the key like every car ever

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9 points

It’s so obvious, then again I think there’s some cars out there without even a metal key for the engine. So dumb.

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12 points

My car (Citroën) has a contact less key, I don’t have to get it out of my pocket and the car automatically opens.

But it still includes a small physical key to open the car when the battery (of the car or key) is dead.

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The metal key is attached to the contactless key or is it a seperate device?

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