Hello, making this post to get some honest, and technical opinions about GrapheneOS. Please do not be bother by this question. No drama here pls πŸ™. I’ve heard that there is some of the google code into the β€œsandbox” feature. Say your opinion below! πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡

43 points

Well it’s open source android, if the code is bad, it’s jettisoned. While I cannot stand Google, not every line of code they write is trash.

The sandbox is good and you do not need to install Play if you do not want to. I use f droid where possible.

I want Linux Mobile but it is not ready yet. In the mean time, this is the best we have.

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-8 points

Okay but all the apps developed for android will now being useless?

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9 points

What do you mean?

You can use sandboxes play store if you wish.

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-6 points

So you will have to emulate all this apps? Like I’m not talking about these on the play store like games or others, I’m talking about the great apps that you can find on fdroid

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-15 points

It is full of proprietary software. I wouldn’t call it that open.

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10 points

You really have 0 understanding on how all this works 😭

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-16 points

Do you? It ships proprietary Google services and encourages closed source solutions. Not only that, but the original developer is convinced that he is the only source of truth.

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22 points

I have been using GrapheneOS on a Pixel 7 Pro for 3 months now. I am BLOWN AWAY at how good it is. I have 3 user profiles. Main profile has no google services at all, and 95% of my apps are running there. Then I have a second user I can switch to that has sandboxed google services and my banking apps on it. I then have a third user that also has sandboxed google services running where I can install any random app that demands google services. (I have only 1 app on that user) . So 99.9% of the time my phone is running with no google services at all. (Side note: without even the sandboxed google services installed, apps need to be left open in the app switcher in order to receive notifications. If you swipe all your apps away, then you won’t receive notifications. This is not a problem for me, as I just keep my messaging apps open in the app switcher. But if it is a problem for you, you would need to run the sandboxed google services).

I see GrapheneOS as a way of removing 99% of all the tracking, spyware and things that I dont like, while still having the convenience of having all the apps and features that are available on a regular smartphone.

There is a learning curve, and many settings to learn and customize. But definitely worth it.

To get a Pixel, instead of paying Β£900 for a new pixel 8 pro, I paid Β£300 for a second hand Pixel 7 Pro on eBay that was in perfect condition. So for Β£300 I now have a privacy phone and an AMAZING camera, which was very important for me the camera.

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22 points

if you have a pixel theres absolutely no reason why you shouldnt use it.

if you dont i dont think its worth to buy one just for graphene

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if you have a pixel theres absolutely no reason why you shouldnt use it.

Plenty reasons to not use it on a pixel…I had horrible compatibility with all sorts of banking apps, government 2FA and traffic warning systems, to the point where they just couldn’t work at all. Their sandboxed play services breaks a shitload of day to day convenience and even necessities to increase privacy.

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2 points

this is a problem with all ROMs, actually.

banking apps especially do everything in their power to block every phone that isn’t stock.

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-16 points

There a lot of ethical reasons to not use it. Also the community tends to be a bit toxic.

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6 points

Name only one reason that is relevant from a technical standpoint.

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I said ethical not technical. Anyway from a technical perspective Graphene os is only supported on a handful of devices so it is off the table for many people.

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2 points

Could you elaborate on the ethical part, please?

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Most likely talking about how the lead developer had a mental health crisis and lost his marbles. From what I’ve heard, he has stepped off to take care of that and the project is still going great.

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They encourage proprietary software and locked down systems. For instance, they use Google play services instead of microG and they promote the play store. I personally think that F-droid apps are much better from both an software freedom perspective and a privacy perspective. I’m not against people installing proprietary apps as I realize sometimes that is unavoidable but they could at least encourage the use of Foss. Graphene could simply have both F-droid and Aurora store by default and on setup explain the difference. They could even allow the install of Play services instead. However, they don’t even really try. They focus on security which at the end of the day is subjective.

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GrapheneOS has something in store for everyone. The fully de-googled setup by the common definition a lot of people strive for is a fully supported configuration, it comes that way out of the box in fact, making zero connections to Google - unlike many other operating systems. But you can also transform it into a more β€œregular” phone by installing Google Play and all the bells and whistles and enjoy the benefits while still feeling save, thanks to the app sandbox applying to it. So you can take away its permissions and feel rest assured it can’t snoop on you even if it wanted to. Or you take a middleground somewhere inbetween if that’s your cup of tea; functionality is an important factor for many, and there’s little you need to sacrifice.

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Thats good to know. Thanks for sharing

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12 points

Did you try reading through the FAQ?

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No and now I’ve answers to a lot of my questions

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Its always better to try and get firsthand knowledge through the FAQ then rely on, possibly inaccurate, Lemmy users. I would also seek answers on their official forum over Lemmy as well.

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